new FreedomPOP (GSMA) free plan SIM spotted at target

New to FreedomPop/Red Pocket...

1.what happens if my minutes and/or data go over 100?
2. If account goes over limits and account is "cut off", can I still call FP to pay for extra minutes and/or data? If not, how can I use phone again if on vacation?
[/QUOTE]If your minutes, texts, or data go over the limits, FP will automatically charge your credit card on file for a top-up. I don't remember exactly what the amounts or prices are for the top ups, but people here have complained when they were caught unawares.

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If going somewhere and you think your going to run out of something you can buy more.

Data is crazy overpriced.


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[/QUOTE]If your minutes, texts, or data go over the limits, FP will automatically charge your credit card on file for a top-up. I don't remember exactly what the amounts or prices are for the top ups, but people here have complained when they were caught unawares.

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THANKS GUYS FOR THE REPLIES!
The phone app I'm using has 4 options for extra data including $2 for extra 100mb. Also has 3 options for extra texts. Oddly on the app there is no option for extra minutes - not sure why? To get extra minutes looks like I have to go directly to the FreedomPop website. Wonder why there is no option for extra minutes on the app?? Guess will just have to remember to buy extra data on the app, and buy extra minutes on the website.
On my legacy FreedomPOP account whenever I went over allotted limits I got $10 charge. Hoping I won't go over with Red Pocket but surely will get hit eventually.
 
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On my legacy FreedomPOP account whenever I went over allotted limits I got $10 charge. Hoping I won't go over with Red Pocket but surely will get hit eventually.

My credit card allows me to generate temporary credit card numbers for online use and I can restrict it to as low as a $1. So I use that on my FP account so they can't ding me for more than that. That way, top-ups are only at my discretion.
 
Such virtual cards are increasingly tested for and rejected these days, by many merchants and FIs
 
I have 4 Privacy.com virtual cards, and I've used them without issue for 4 FP accounts for the last several months to a year. However, yesterday, I received a message from Privacy that they detected that I was using for multiple accounts on FP:

"$1.00 charge at FREEDOMPOP declined on your XXXXXXXXXXXX card because we've detected multiple cards used at FREEDOMPOP. This behavior is prohibited on our system to prevent exploitation of new customer or referral promotions. If you have a special use-case which requires this, please reach out directly to our team at support@privacy.com."

I also had issues with Freedompop giving me messages that my account is suspended, despite re-setting up the account just a few days prior.
 
i use prepaid 'gift cards' that i have already depleted most of the balance for my freedompop lines, however i do not expect to bother much longer with freedompop
 
Got tired of having to manually renew my FP GSMA line. Ported the number to Metro to get a Moto G Stylus 2023 for $0 and paid $40 for one month of service. At least that number's demise was useful.
 
Good idea....but doesn't that deal require you be activate and wait 6 months before unlock?

and it seems there is now an activation fee?

https://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1929613-New-Fees-for-Prepaid

Metro phones will be unlocked after 6 months but require only one month of paid service. The cost of the plan depends on the phone that you buy, higher-priced phones require the $65 plan, less expensive phones require only the $40 plan. If you buy online, there's no activation fee. Buy one in a Metro store and they will pile up activation fee, insurance, case, and charge you sales tax on the full price instead of the discounted price. From March until now, I've bought online one iPhone12, two iPhone11's, one Samsung A9+ tablet, one Moto Stylus 5G (2023) and didn't have to pay activation fee on any of them.
 
First snag encountered on my new free 100/100/100 account:
Had a long winded phone call that unexpectedly used up all my minutes. About a minute before call was disconnected, I heard a loud siren like tone. Thought I was using WiFi but apparently not. Purchased 100 minutes for $2 shortly after and now back to normal.
Note - if i call from my computer using Google Voice my minutes are not deducted, quality on wifi is not quite as good but still usable.
Moral of story I guess is anytime I use my phone, even when on WiFi my minutes are deducted. Do remember FreedomPop telling me the same when transferring so assuming FreedomPop does not support free WiFi calling from phones, only from my computer using 3rd party wifi calling apps like Google Voice. Kind of a bummer - my legacy FP plan did make wifi calls, unfortunately I think even "data" calls were wifi routed. At least now the quality of all calls on the phone seems to be excellent.
 
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First snag encountered on my new free 100/100/100 account:
Had a long winded phone call that unexpectedly used up all my minutes. About a minute before call was disconnected, I heard a loud siren like tone. Thought I was using WiFi but apparently not. Purchased 100 minutes for $2 shortly after and now back to normal.
Note - if i call from my computer using Google Voice my minutes are not deducted, quality on wifi is not quite as good but still usable.
Moral of story I guess is anytime I use my phone, even when on WiFi my minutes are deducted. Do remember FreedomPop telling me the same when transferring so assuming FreedomPop does not support free WiFi calling from phones, only from my computer using 3rd party wifi calling apps like Google Voice. Kind of a bummer - my legacy FP plan did make wifi calls, unfortunately I think even "data" calls were wifi routed. At least now the quality of all calls on the phone seems to be excellent.
UPDATE: FB says they enabled WiFi calling on my account, but still unable to get working on my Pixel 3. There's a toggle in mobile settings on my phone to turn on WiFi Calling but it won't take, just says "unable to activate". FP rep said wifi caliing works on GSPA phones if phone is compatible and if phone is unlocked. Also said they no longer sell GSPT sim cards.
 
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UPDATE: FP says they enabled WiFi calling on my account, but still unable to get working on my Pixel 3. There's a toggle in mobile settings on my phone to turn on WiFi Calling but it won't take, just says "unable to activate". FP rep said wifi caliing works on GSPA phones if phone is compatible and if phone is unlocked. Also said they no longer sell GSPT sim cards.

UPDATE to UPDATE: Still can't use WiFi calling on main phone app; However, I can now finally use my new used phone to make free WiFi calls by using Google Voice. There's a setting in Voice when making calls to display your FP number or your Voice number. Setting it to Voice stops minutes from being deducted - sweet! Not sure about receiving calls (assuming have to tell people to call google voice number, else minutes deducted. If I have no wifi, then they have to call FP number probably.) Sort a tricky but as they say, "beggars can't be choosy".

Still have not given up on WiFi calling from FP number since that would simplify to 1 number, I think.
Maybe problem is a phone setting like APN, Verizon Pixel phone not completely unlocked. Who knows??
 
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> if i call from my computer using Google Voice my minutes are not deducted

There is zero connection between gVoice and FP, FP has no clue about nor interest in that scenario.

Even when you are calling using gVoice on your phone, your FP minutes are not touched. Nothing FP is touched so long as your cell data is turned off and your phone is getting its data from WiFi.

If you are calling using your FP , yes if course minutes are being used up, over WiFi Calling is just the same as dialing using cell service.

> FreedomPop does not support free WiFi calling from phones

No provider does. Many include UTT in their plans these days though, some as cheaply as $5/mo.

> using 3rd party wifi calling apps like Google Voice

Best to call these VoIP apps, not technically anything to do with the cell provider feature called WiFi Calling.


> FB says they enabled WiFi calling on my account, but still unable to get working on my Pixel 3

Yes they cannot "make it" work, the device needs to be compatible and each provider is different.

> Maybe problem is a phone setting like APN, Verizon Pixel phone not completely unlocked. Who knows??

Network / SIM locking has nothing to do with whether such features work or not.


> GSPA phones ... GSPT sims

I assume you meant GSMA and GSMT ? Those are just euphemisms / code for ATT vs TMO network service, GSM is not actually used anymore.
 
Good info, thank you Paul Crawhorne, for correcting my confusing terminology (WiFI Calling vs VoIP). You really know your stuff.

What threw me on minutes being deducted using the Google Voice app is that by default GV makes all calls using cellular, so you have to change previously mentioned setting to get free calls using wifi.

After a little research, and please correct me if I'm wrong, it seems to me the only difference between what we're calling VoIP wifi and WiFi Calling is with WiFi Calling your cellular provider supposedly chooses the better connection for you in case you are in a bad cellular area with wifi available to you. Also WiFi Calling uses the same phone app for both cell and wifi calls. While with the former, "VoIP" you choose WiFi calls yourself on a 3rd party app, or use your phone app for cellular. Both wifi calling methods use your internet so both should be free.

More than one FP rep has told me they offer WiFi Calling. Anyone getting it, and if so on what plan(s)?

Ultimately, for me WiFi Calling now that I think I understand it better is mostly worthless, Probably would never use it unless maybe I traveled to areas with bad reception where I also had WiFi available. Also because WiFi Calling is a battery hog since it's constantly checking for wifi signals.

Again, when I incorrectly configured the GV app, I compounded my error by confusing Wifi Calling with VoIP. Sorry for the confusion and thanks again for making the distinction clearer to me. Now I'm not very keen on "WiFi Calling" and very happy to have GV or "VoIP" working like it was on my old phone.
 
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You're getting close, and no need to use scare quotes for VoIP on the one hand, or WiFi Calling on the other.

Your term "cellular wifi" is not a thing, and using "wifi calls" is confusingly ambiguous, so stick to the two terms including the use of caps as above.

VoIP tech has been around for several, decades and is only more recently associated with cellphone usage. It started with computers and specialised equipment over wired Ethernet in offices.

It just means T&T is encapsulated in internet data, in this context as opposed to using cell tower T&T service protocols.

It can be used over any source of internet connection, including WiFi or cell data service.


WiFi Calling is superficially similar, but is a much newer tech, specifically from the cell provider world, and a completely different set of protocols. It requires as you point out, no separate app required, just the normal native phone dialer, and yes can auto-switch over to cell tower T&T when that becomes available

VoIP is what gVoice is using, not using any cell provider tech, works the same from a tablet or computer, same with Skype or TextNow etc. You must use the VoIP app, not available from the native phone dialer.

VoIP calling is only free on WiFi data, if you need to use cell data to get internet, it uses your MB allocation.

For WiFi Calling, your cell provider still counts texts and minutes for that service, maybe also depletes your data MBs.

> More than one FP rep has told me they offer WiFi calling.

As I stated previously, just because they offer it, that does mean it will work with your specific phone. On an ATT network plan, using a newer phone specifically designed for AT&T, will increase the odds of their being able to get it to work.

> Ultimately, for me WiFi Calling is mostly worthless, hogs battery

Easy enough to just switch WiFi off until you want to use a specific WiFi access point.

There are many scenarios where it can come in handy when you want to use that number, cell tower signals can get congested or weak, deep inside an office building.
 
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