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    Legacy gold rewards & 3G shutoff

    I have a legacy gold rewards plan on a 3G phone.

    I am coming up on my renew date next month.

    I have not got any text from T-Mobile about the shutoff.

    My 1st question is when is the shutoff?

    My 2nd question is T-Mobile going to do anything like offer a free new phone or a discount on a new phone?

    My 3rd question is are there any cheap phones like $10 to $20 that will work?

    My 4th question is can I renew the plan even if my phone stops working due to the 3G shutoff?

    I do like have an extra phone for emergencies.

    However, I am thinking about just letting it go dead unless there is an easy way to get setup on a new phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad4cell View Post
    My 1st question is when is the shutoff?
    https://www.howardforums.com/showthr...ceived-via-SMS

    https://www.howardforums.com/showthr...s-for-your-car

    AT&T February 2022
    Verizon “no later” than December 31 2022

    Found this, current schedule:
    https://old.reddit.com/r/tmobile/com...r_july_1_2022/
    https://www.howardforums.com/showthr...-2G-3G-shutoff
    *Edit* Just realized you actually posted the dates yourself. *Bangs head on keyboard*

    https://www.t-mobile.com/support/cov...work-evolution
    Key Dates:
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        As of March 31, 2022 Sprint’s older 3G (CDMA) network will be retired
        As of June 30, 2022 Sprint’s LTE network will be retired
        As of July 1, 2022 T-Mobile’s older 3G UMTS network will be retired
    
    We’ve also shared that we plan to retire T-Mobile’s older GSM 2G network as well, but no date has been set.

    Quote Originally Posted by brad4cell View Post
    My 2nd question is T-Mobile going to do anything like offer a free new phone or a discount on a new phone?
    Unknown. Maybe yes, maybe no. But they haven't announced the end of the 2G network yet, so your 3G/4G non-VoLTE phone can drop even further down to 2G to make calls/text. Unfortunately, the 2G network is being kept at the bare minimum for industrial/commercial/IoT/machine/security usage/low data, dunno if they'll allow voice service.

    Quote Originally Posted by brad4cell View Post
    My 3rd question is are there any cheap phones like $10 to $20 that will work?
    Most VoLTE capable phones are being allowed on T-Mobile. They are the least restrictive carrier in regards to the VoLTE standard and even some VoLTE capable China phones are able to get VoLTE service. This might change, and it's possible they might implement a harsh whitelist like AT&T/Cricket, but hopefully not.

    Almost any of the cheap Tracfone DL models should be able to get VoLTE on T-Mobile once you get them unlocked. Some are not on AT&T's whitelist, but T-Mobile seems to be more generous, maybe like the cheap My Flip2 and LG Classic Flip, which should be VoLTE capable on all three carriers. Or some of those unlocked Nokia bar phones.

    Quote Originally Posted by brad4cell View Post
    My 4th question is can I renew the plan even if my phone stops working due to the 3G shutoff? However, I am thinking about just letting it go dead unless there is an easy way to get setup on a new phone.
    Why not? As your plan is already activated, they don't care if you use it or not as long as you keep paying them. They're just restricting activation to VoLTE capable phones. Also like I mentioned before, 2G is still available on T-Mobile for the time being, but it'll probably go away in a few years.

    You can try to force your phone down to 2G and see if you can still make a call/text currently.
    Last edited by Slepy; 01-18-2022 at 02:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slepy View Post
    https://www.howardforums.com/showthr...ceived-via-SMS

    https://www.howardforums.com/showthr...s-for-your-car

    AT&T February 2022
    Verizon “no later” than December 31 2022

    Found this, current schedule:
    https://old.reddit.com/r/tmobile/com...r_july_1_2022/
    https://www.howardforums.com/showthr...-2G-3G-shutoff
    *Edit* Just realized you actually posted the dates yourself. *Bangs head on keyboard*

    https://www.t-mobile.com/support/cov...work-evolution
    Key Dates:
    Code:
        As of March 31, 2022 Sprint’s older 3G (CDMA) network will be retired
        As of June 30, 2022 Sprint’s LTE network will be retired
        As of July 1, 2022 T-Mobile’s older 3G UMTS network will be retired
    
    We’ve also shared that we plan to retire T-Mobile’s older GSM 2G network as well, but no date has been set.



    Unknown. Maybe yes, maybe no. But they haven't announced the end of the 2G network yet, so your 3G/4G non-VoLTE phone can drop even further down to 2G to make calls/text. Unfortunately, the 2G network is being kept at the bare minimum for industrial/commercial/IoT/machine/security usage/low data, dunno if they'll allow voice service.



    Most VoLTE capable phones are being allowed on T-Mobile. They are the least restrictive carrier in regards to the VoLTE standard and even some VoLTE capable China phones are able to get VoLTE service. This might change, and it's possible they might implement a harsh whitelist like AT&T/Cricket, but hopefully not.

    Almost any of the cheap Tracfone DL models should be able to get VoLTE on T-Mobile once you get them unlocked. Some are not on AT&T's whitelist, but T-Mobile seems to be more generous, maybe like the cheap My Flip2 and LG Classic Flip, which should be VoLTE capable on all three carriers. Or some of those unlocked Nokia bar phones.



    Why not? As your plan is already activated, they don't care if you use it or not as long as you keep paying them. They're just restricting activation to VoLTE capable phones. Also like I mentioned before, 2G is still available on T-Mobile for the time being, but it'll probably go away in a few years.

    You can try to force your phone down to 2G and see if you can still make a call/text currently.
    I have my Legacy Gold Rewards SIM card in a Tracfone Duro 7050.
    It's unlocked out of the box for T-Mobile.
    It's 4G LTE.
    I originally kept my SIM in a Lumia 640 XL and a post paid T-Mobile family plan line SIM in a Lumia 640.

    Both of them stopped working on T-Mobile sometime in the late summer.
    I put the post paid SIM in a OnePlus Nord N10 5G and I'm using my Legacy Gold Rewards line in the Duro 7050.
    It was a Tracfone but it works with the T-Mobile SIM card just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slepy View Post

    Most VoLTE capable phones are being allowed on T-Mobile. They are the least restrictive carrier in regards to the VoLTE standard and even some VoLTE capable China phones are able to get VoLTE service. This might change, and it's possible they might implement a harsh whitelist like AT&T/Cricket, but hopefully not.

    Almost any of the cheap Tracfone DL models should be able to get VoLTE on T-Mobile once you get them unlocked. Some are not on AT&T's whitelist, but T-Mobile seems to be more generous, maybe like the cheap My Flip2 and LG Classic Flip, which should be VoLTE capable on all three carriers. Or some of those unlocked Nokia bar phones.
    Thanks for all the info.

    I think I will extend my plan and look for a new cheap phone. I don't think T-Mobile is going to have any special offers for me.

    TracFone LG Classic Flip is 29.99.
    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tracfon...?skuId=6412356

    Tracfone TCL My Flip 2 is 19.99.
    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tracfone-...hone/222382519

    I think I prefer the cheap My Flip 2 for 19.99.

    Why would a locked TracFone work on T-Mobile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad4cell View Post
    Why would a locked TracFone work on T-Mobile?
    I also don't think T-Mobile will have free phones/deals. For Cricket, it makes some sense, their cheapest plan is $30-60, so they want to keep those users. Us cheap a$$ are rolling $10/year on our legacy gold rewards for 10+ years. I would think they prefer to get rid of us any way possible.

    A locked TracFone will NOT work on T-Mobile. It must be unlocked first before it'll take the SIM. Afterwards, it'll work fine because it should have the bands and T-Mobile VoLTE support. SnowyWhite mentioned his Tracfone Duro 7050 works fine on T-Mobile because it was unlocked out of the box for some reason, but it'll take 1-year, maybe 60-days, to unlock a Tracfone.

    If you don't want to mess with Tracfone unlocking, a Nokia - 225 (Unlocked) is around $40-50, and should be VoLTE capable on T-Mobile according to reviews, have to enable it in menus.

    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nokia-2...?skuId=6453854

    I ran my LG Classic Flip IMEI against the T-Mobile BYOD checker.

    https://www.t-mobile.com/resources/bring-your-own-phone

    Code:
    You’re all set.
    Your device is compatible with the T‑Mobile network and can take advantage of our most powerful signal, Extended Range LTE.
    
    LG Classic Flip
    This device is fully compatible with T-Mobile’s network technology.
    The My Flip 2 is okay, but slightly annoying as it's a dumb phone, trying to be a smart phone. It has some apps on the home screen that's impossible to remove/uninstall, like Facebook, Google Assistant, Google Maps, etc...

    If you go in stores, check one out and run the IMEI against the BYOD checker link I posted above. I assume most cheap DL model Tracfone are VoLTE complible with T-Mobile once unlocked, since they theoretically support all three major networks. I also ran my IMEI against Cricket's BYOD checker and it will work fine there as well.

    Tracfone also had a few deals on cheap $30-50 smartphones. HSN had the Moto E for $30 after coupon + 1 year 1500 min/txt/MB service. It might unlock after two months with Verizon's new policy, not confirmed yet. It comes with a Verizon based SIM, but can swap when it gets unlocked. It's also $59.99 at Tracfone's web site or Target or other retailers if you can find it in stock.
    Last edited by Slepy; 01-18-2022 at 04:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slepy View Post

    A locked TracFone will NOT work on T-Mobile. It must be unlocked first before it'll take the SIM. Afterwards, it'll work fine because it should have the bands and T-Mobile VoLTE support. SnowyWhite mentioned his Tracfone Duro 7050 works fine on T-Mobile because it was unlocked out of the box for some reason, but it'll take 1-year, maybe 60-days, to unlock a Tracfone.

    If you don't want to mess with Tracfone unlocking, a Nokia - 225 (Unlocked) is around $40-50, and should be VoLTE capable on T-Mobile according to reviews, have to enable it in menus.
    I don't want to bother trying to unlock a TracFone.

    The Unlocked Nokia 225 is 43.92 so that is cheap for an unlocked phone.

    Nokia 225 | Unlocked | 4G Cell Phone | Black
    https://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Unlocke...08Q1YWQQ9?th=1

    I have an unlocked moto e4 but it needs a battery but I thought I might just be able to get a cheap phone instead.

    Too bad there are not any cheap new phones. They should give me one but don't think they will.

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    i swapped my phone into Visible and got a free phone with a $5 monthly fee first month after referral code.

    then i canceled the service, kept the phone. Now i have a $5 moto LTE phone that works with legacy

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    Quote Originally Posted by link626 View Post
    i swapped my phone into Visible and got a free phone with a $5 monthly fee first month after referral code.

    then i canceled the service, kept the phone. Now i have a $5 moto LTE phone that works with legacy
    That was tricky.

    On the visible website under deals-swap it says the old phone has to be apple or android but my phone is a dumb phone so neither so doubt it would work for me.

    Was the phone that you swapped apple or android?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad4cell View Post
    That was tricky.

    On the VISIBLE website under deals-swap it says the old phone has to be apple or android but my phone is a dumb phone so neither so doubt it would work for me.

    Was the phone that you swapped apple or android?
    I agree I suggest you throw $5 at Visible by Verizon for the 1st month. Unlimited hotspotting for 1 device. If you're a bit fuzzy about friend code for $5 1st month & Party Pay post# 352 explains everything nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brad4cell View Post
    I don't want to bother trying to unlock a TracFone.

    The Unlocked Nokia 225 is 43.92 so that is cheap for an unlocked phone.

    Nokia 225 | Unlocked | 4G Cell Phone | Black
    https://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Unlocke...08Q1YWQQ9?th=1

    I have an unlocked moto e4 but it needs a battery but I thought I might just be able to get a cheap phone instead.

    Too bad there are not any cheap new phones. They should give me one but don't think they will.
    The 225 works great on T-Mobile.

    It's funny with it too, as if I put my AT&T SIM, it has VoLTE for about 5min until the system realizes it's not on thier whitelist then it loses VoLTE on AT&T as they block it.. I'll never understand AT&T's network management practices haha

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