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    10/27 Uncarrier announcement likely TVision related

    This is quite exciting especially if T-Mobile is going to use their B41 or n41 to directly send out their video content.

    I expect them to be a direct competitor with YouTube TV, Sling, AT&T Now and Hulu Plus.


    https://www.tmonews.com/2020/10/t-mo...ber-27-teaser/

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    I predict it will much ado about nothing like the last one and we'll get 45 minutes of the cringey new CEO and Anthony Anderson phoning in another performance looking like he's thinking "I should have read my contract better."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet1000 View Post
    I expect them to be a direct competitor with YouTube TV, Sling, AT&T Now and Hulu Plus.
    You're thinking of Hulu with Live TV. Hulu Plus hasn't existed in years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hagar View Post
    You're thinking of Hulu with Live TV. Hulu Plus hasn't existed in years
    Yes, that's what I'm thinking of.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hagar View Post
    I predict it will much ado about nothing
    Doubtful it would be about nothing as it is likely a new service. The potential differentiator from all of the services listed is they require a broadband connection. In theory, T-Mobile could deliver this content directly via B41/n41 and the customer wouldn't have to have broadband to just get TV channels.

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    Who would want TV w.o. broadband?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikethaler View Post
    Who would want TV w.o. broadband?
    Those that have data via their phone and really have no other need for broadband other than for watching video content on their TV. I know many people in that situation.

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    10/27 Uncarrier announcement likely TVision related

    Just what the masses need and have been asking for..... another live tv streaming option..... lol I know they really want this to be a thing, but, it’s a dying industry that unless you can get original content ( your Hulu’s, Netflix, Amazon prime video) you lose money. Sling has been declining and forced to raise rates due to increased costs, vue went out of business, even with owning a lot of the content providers and a lot of the content at&t can’t get people to sign up for their live tv services, the only one who seems to be making any type of money is you tube tv. Maybe they feel their is a market, I personally just don’t see one. The plus side is they really don’t have too much invested in this money wise, they only paid like 300 million for layer 3, but still. Just don’t see this being that big, learn from the mistakes of at&t, don’t try to be like them. Young people aren’t looking to sign up for live tv providers, T-Mobile tv and chill won’t become a thing lol.

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    young people also don't want to pay for 150+ channels they have no want, need or desire to look at.
    Remember the "good old days" of tv streaming? $25, $35 etc. offering a small selection of networks. Fast forward a couple of years and those networks are forcing streaming companies to bundle more of the useless channels. Just like what they did to cable companies. "oh you want ESPN? well you must also buy this bundle of other crappy channels we are selling". And just like that, what was once $35, now is $65. sure, you got twice as many "channels" but most of those are garbage.

    Ironic how millions of people cut the cord to escape all that from cable companies, only for networks to get wise to all that and then shove that stuff down the throats of streaming companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qt0 View Post
    Ironic how millions of people cut the cord to escape all that from cable companies, only for networks to get wise to all that and then shove that stuff down the throats of streaming companies.
    The fact that anyone was naive enough to think this would not turn into "Cable 2.0" is beyond my comprehension.

    They'll force these streaming providers to all become just as bloated as Digital Cable became, run them under but then in the meantime complete making their own private streaming service (what's slowly starting to happen now) so we still end up paying $10 here, $15 there, $5 there...

    Then add to the fact that companies like AT$T and Comca$t like to put arbitrary caps on wired broadband.. whoops, there's another $30 to my ISP because I streamed too much video...

    In the end, we are not really going to end up saving money. They all have an ARPU target... and WILL get it one way or another.

    Cheap streaming honeymoon is over, and big media has shareholders to get dividends too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qt0 View Post
    young people also don't want to pay for 150+ channels they have no want, need or desire to look at.
    Remember the "good old days" of tv streaming? $25, $35 etc. offering a small selection of networks. Fast forward a couple of years and those networks are forcing streaming companies to bundle more of the useless channels. Just like what they did to cable companies. "oh you want ESPN? well you must also buy this bundle of other crappy channels we are selling". And just like that, what was once $35, now is $65. sure, you got twice as many "channels" but most of those are garbage.

    Ironic how millions of people cut the cord to escape all that from cable companies, only for networks to get wise to all that and then shove that stuff down the throats of streaming companies.
    To be honest, a lot of young people don't pay anything for live TV. They know where to watch what they want to see without paying for it. Shoot, you could just install a couple apk files to a fire stick and have every channel ever made available for free if you wanted to. A lot of them will carry a Netflix, Disney+, or Hulu account, and that's about it.

    I know tmobile likes to say "but our boxes....they are wireless!!" But so are at&ts lol. At&t will gladly sell you a nice wireless box, with any channel you could want. The problem is, they don't sell a lot of them, and this is a company who does service an older demographic than tmobile does. A demographic who still uses cable TV services. So I don't know. I guess I'll wait and see what they are actually offering, but, I just don't see the demand for this at all. Also, can't wait to go Into the tmobile stores, and when I call them, to be bombarded with adding tmobile TV to my account...... That should be fun.

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    For once, 'most everyone seems in general agreement. I pay $8.55/mo for one Netflix DVD at a time and piggyback on my son's Netflix streaming account. That and an antenna provides more TV than I want or need. All the other paid streaming services or cable/satellite seem like just a waste. I go to my friends' houses and look at the TV and just shake my head saying, "150 channels and nothing to watch". Just what America needs is not another ~$100/month TV service.

    Of course, we could all be wrong and the next Uncarrier announcement could be something completely different, but I doubt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theghostlad82 View Post
    I know tmobile likes to say "but our boxes....they are wireless!!" But so are at&ts lol. At&t will gladly sell you a nice wireless box, with any channel you could want.
    As far as I know, any AT&T box requires a separate broadband connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theghostlad82 View Post
    To be honest, a lot of young people don't pay anything for live TV. They know where to watch what they want to see without paying for it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY

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    Quote Originally Posted by VisionsDivine View Post
    Don’t think they overly care really how anyone else feels about it. Look on Reddit, modding fire sticks and such is popular, look in sports forums, they post links where to stream games live, want a PPV? They will post links where to watch those. Can call them lazy, can really call them whatever you want, as long as it isn’t stupid, as they are not not dumb, if they want to watch something, they will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet1000 View Post
    As far as I know, any AT&T box requires a separate broadband connection.
    They do, and You have a point, I guess that will be one of their differences is they will say no connection required, it will use T-Mobile data to stream seamlessly to your tv box, or phone app, however they choose to do it. Just don’t see this taking off. The response has been very meh across the board with this so far. I got no problem waiting and seeing what they do actually offer on it, I just am not sure tv service is what people are looking for right now. It’s a market that really doesn’t seem to have very big growth potential anymore. Maybe they’ll blow it out of the water, who really knows, just skeptical people are actually waiting for this.

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