T‑Mobile Home Internet

[wco81]

Ah, I didn't know they showed different speeds based on your location.

Then maybe I'm limited to 85-300 Mbps.

[brad15]

Ah, I didn't know they showed different speeds based on your location.

Then maybe I'm limited to 85-300 Mbps.

That would mean your area is Mid-Band/C-Band only (and that's okay!). mmWave does not cover large distances at all (think a city block at best with current deployed gear, and only outdoors)

My current house is also C-Band only (mmWave is a block away), and I get 300/20 from it 24-7.

My point is, if you do not see 300-1000Mbps under Home+, it's not worth it to even the higher priced plan. the base Home 5G plan is good enough.

[formercanuck]

That would mean your area is Mid-Band/C-Band only (and that's okay!). mmWave does not cover large distances at all (think a city block at best with current deployed gear, and only outdoors)

My current house is also C-Band only (mmWave is a block away), and I get 300/20 from it 24-7.

My point is, if you do not see 300-1000Mbps under Home+, it's not worth it to even the higher priced plan. the base Home 5G plan is good enough.

I suspect that it will be difficult to obtain home internet with mmWave in general, unless you're in a townhouse/MDU with a tower/panel in 'clear line of site' of your window. Good luck indoors getting it through a wall. mmWave typically requires NSA, and will aggregate downlink.

[brad15]

I suspect that it will be difficult to obtain home internet with mmWave in general, unless you're in a townhouse/MDU with a tower/panel in 'clear line of site' of your window. Good luck indoors getting it through a wall. mmWave typically requires NSA, and will aggregate downlink.

It actually was not bad for me. Verizon sent a modem that had a two piece setup.

The mmWave antenna stuck on the ouside of the window and had a thin cable that ran inside to the actual modem that stuck on the other side of the window, with an ethernet cable going to a WiFi 6 router that had some Amazon Alexa speaker built in.

[formercanuck]

I think I saw an image or 2 of the 2 different Verizon modems. The mmWave one has a suction to stick to a window (basically needed). It wouldn't be bad if these had a port for an external antenna, but I understand why they don't. No liability for lightning or non grounded connections.

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[wco81]

I thought VZ was putting mmWave only at big public venues like stadiums.

Not in residential areas, unless maybe there's a high-rise towers with a lot of apartments.


So T-Mobile 5G UC is nothing like mmWave?

[brad15]

I thought VZ was putting mmWave only at big public venues like stadiums.

Not in residential areas, unless maybe there's a high-rise towers with a lot of apartments.


So T-Mobile 5G UC is nothing like mmWave?

5G UC is mid band, just at 2.5GHz (can be mmWave too, but T-Mobile has VERY limited deployment)

Verizon's UW can be C-Band/3.5Hz. DoD/3.7GHz, or mmWave dpeending on where you are.

in my neighborhood, T-Mobile's 5G UC can do well over 1Gbps with a current high end phone (s23/iPhone 14), and verizon's C-Band is ~600-800MHz due to only half of the C-Band spectrum being available right now.

Verizon has mmWave blanketed pretty much all over my current neighborhood in Chicago and it was installed *before* they bought C-Band, so it's been here a while, but I just happen to live in an odd mmWave deadspot due to where my house is.

[formercanuck]

I thought VZ was putting mmWave only at big public venues like stadiums.

Not in residential areas, unless maybe there's a high-rise towers with a lot of apartments.


So T-Mobile 5G UC is nothing like mmWave?

T-Mobile 5G UC 'typically' is like Verizon UW in that they are both under 6GHz. In general, T-Mobile has ~120-180MHz worth of spectrum in the 2.5GHz range. Someone will have to keep me honest here ... As of 2021, Verizon has 140-200 MHz of contiguous spectrum (5G handles 100MHz worth at a shot but can aggregate).
If (where) Verizon has its mmWave (+20GHz range) , they typically have a few hundred MHz of mmWave. Great for point to point capacity backhaul, or external antenna (and window). Very useful for crowded locations (i.e. Times Square, Union station, Dodger Stadium). The sub 6GHz range is useful for most mobile communications. PCS/AWS has been used for decades and covers most areas. < 1GHz range is good for rural and being able to go indoors through walls.

mmWave is expensive to deploy due to the limited range that it is useful for, but works well in very highly dense areas.