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    ATT joins Verizon in raising concerns over Magenta’s spectrum cache

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    Months after T-Mobile closed its acquisition of Sprint, Verizon and AT&T are raising concerns about T-Mobile's concentration of spectrum.



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    Sounds like the duopoly is turning into a couple of babies now that they have an actual third competitor to compete with.

    They need to stop the whining and the crying and start competing. They still have more customers and more revenue. Imagine, they're complaining that T-Mobile is leasing unused spectrum and deploying it for use by people. Wow.

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    Why compete when you can have lawyers stifle competition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet1000 View Post
    Sounds like the duopoly is turning into a couple of babies now that they have an actual third competitor to compete with.

    They need to stop the whining and the crying and start competing. They still have more customers and more revenue. Imagine, they're complaining that T-Mobile is leasing unused spectrum and deploying it for use by people. Wow.
    If I recall, they are doing the same thing T-Mobile did. This is like the time people were complaining that At&t/Verizon charged activation fees while tmobile was charging 25 for a SIM card. I saw all of them charging one thing or another. Business is a business


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    Boo hoo AT&T & Verizon — way to be asleep at the wheel.

    They could both just lease / purchase spectrum from Tmo :-P

    Or one of them could just buy Dish.


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    This is really bizarre. I wonder why didn't they object BEFORE the merger was complete? This is really strange to complain after the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qt0 View Post
    This is really bizarre. I wonder why didn't they object BEFORE the merger was complete? This is really strange to complain after the fact.
    I've always suspected they were lobbying behind the scenes and were encouraging these attorney generals to block it. To answer your question, I think they thought it would look bad if the two largest companies came out against the merger of two smaller companies. They thought it would look weak to protest it---and may have had the reverse effect of it being pushed through faster.

    So in public, they were like, eh we don't care one way or the other. But in private, they knew what competition would happen if this went through. So I believe that's why they never objected beforehand.

    And where are all of the merger opponents who said that AT&T and Verizon would WELCOME this merger? I haven't heard much from them lately...maybe some are still around.

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    I'm not pro or anti any carrier. I'm pro-consumer. The tool the FCC has to assure competition is setting rules to assure a distribution of spectrum that allows for at least four viable national carriers. T-Mobile is currently sitting in the catbird seat when it comes to spectrum. The only disadvantage they seem to have is that band 71 is not yet universally on all smartphones. Verizon, OTOH, has gone from having adequate spectrum to being relatively impecunious. AT&T has quite a bit, but as FirstNet becomes more saturated, band 14 may not be available for non-FirstNet customers.
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    I wouldn't call it hoarding when it's only been 5-6 months since TMO took ownership of 2.5. a new band takes years to rollout new equipment

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    Verizon and AT&T are raising concerns about T-Mobile's concentration of spectrum.
    They can go ahead and raise concerns... they could have bought Sprint too and had all that spectrum, they didn't. (AT&T's debt load's pretty high but it doesn't seem to have stopped them from other large purchases...). They did at least have Sprint/T-Mo shed off that 800mhz spectrum, low band being particularly important spectrum.

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    ATT joins Verizon in raising concerns over Magenta’s spectrum cache

    Quote Originally Posted by hwertz View Post
    They can go ahead and raise concerns... they could have bought Sprint too and had all that spectrum, they didn't. (AT&T's debt load's pretty high but it doesn't seem to have stopped them from other large purchases...). They did at least have Sprint/T-Mo shed off that 800mhz spectrum, low band being particularly important spectrum.
    No they couldn’t of. Verizon/sprint or At&t/sprint likely never gets approved. They had a hard enough time getting T-Mobile/Sprint approved. That 800 spectrum being divested is also tricky. Dish has first rights to it, but, if dish chooses not to buy it T-Mobile has to auction it off, if the auction price doesnt meet a certain number, T-Mobile has the opportunity to keep the spectrum.

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    The duopoly lovers and carriers are panicking and using this a reason to try to undermine T-Mobile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRNewcomb View Post
    I'm not pro or anti any carrier. I'm pro-consumer. The tool the FCC has to assure competition is setting rules to assure a distribution of spectrum that allows for at least four viable national carriers. T-Mobile is currently sitting in the catbird seat when it comes to spectrum. The only disadvantage they seem to have is that band 71 is not yet universally on all smartphones. Verizon, OTOH, has gone from having adequate spectrum to being relatively impecunious. AT&T has quite a bit, but as FirstNet becomes more saturated, band 14 may not be available for non-FirstNet customers.
    That's what I think may eventually happen. Band 14 use is not a guarantee for the average consumer like it is for first responder. Wouldn't surprise me if eventually regular customers rarely get access to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwertz View Post
    They can go ahead and raise concerns... they could have bought Sprint too and had all that spectrum, they didn't. (AT&T's debt load's pretty high but it doesn't seem to have stopped them from other large purchases...). They did at least have Sprint/T-Mo shed off that 800mhz spectrum, low band being particularly important spectrum.
    No way a merger with Sprint and at&t or Verizon would ever get approved. T-Mobile did this same sort of thing for the 600 MHz auction. regardless T-Mobile isn't going heavy into C-band. yes they'll bid up the prices to make it a pain for at&t and Verizon and those 2 can do the same when the 2.5 GHz auction happens next year. Which is an auction T-Mobile should be more interested in.

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