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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeuten View Post
    ..... TDD DSS... which is far more complicated and has far more capacity loss than FDD DSS. There’s a lot of weird PRB disguising going on as it’s done in time blocks as opposed to FDD where you’re given specific channels for DL and UL. T-Mobile doesn’t really need to utilize DSS, seeing as they have 160+ MHz across most of the country.....
    Quote Originally Posted by jet1000 View Post
    It wasn't really clear if we was talking about TDD or FDD in February when his comments were made on the investor call .....
    This is the salient point, to me. If there was some elegant, efficient way to combine LTE and 5G in a hunk of band 71, I'm sure T-Mobile would have done it. In a New York second. Who wouldn't want to get rid of the mutual guard bands between the LTE and 5G signals and turn it into usable erlangs. It's almost a no-brainer.

    OTOH, band 41 is not a place where T-Mobile needs to save space. They can well afford 20 MHz for LTE and (what?) 60-80 MHz for 5G. It's not like 5G phones are all that common right now. So, TDD DSS won't gain them that much in band 41. The way I've seen TDD DSS described, I'm not even sure it would work with channels wider that 20 MHz. Does anyone know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRNewcomb View Post
    OTOH, band 41 is not a place where T-Mobile needs to save space. They can well afford 20 MHz for LTE and (what?) 60-80 MHz for 5G. It's not like 5G phones are all that common right now. So, TDD DSS won't gain them that much in band 41. The way I've seen TDD DSS described, I'm not even sure it would work with channels wider that 20 MHz. Does anyone know?
    Depends on teh area. In my area T-Mobile own a total of 73.5 MHz and that's divided up into a 6 MHz, 12 MHz and 55.5 MHz block. The other 116 MHz they will have to buy at the 2.5 GHz auction next year. Also if Verizon and at&t don't also decide to participate and they could. There are 2 congruent 50 MHz blocks up for auction between the 6 MHz and 12 MHz blocks and a 16.5 MHz block that comes right after the 55.5 MHz block. At the very least you'd think T-Mobile would grab the 16.5 MHz block so they'd have 72 MHz congruent

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    Excited to get the 5G iPhone, T-Mobile has filed permits for 2 n41 sites in my area. Only downside is they only own enough spectrum to do 40 MHz n41 and a 20 MHz B41 carrier. Not sure how improved it will be over 20x20 LTE, but it will definitely be an improvement seeing as they only have 10x10 B2/4 and 5x5 B12/71.


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    Having a 5G phone does help in the hood. I don’t know if it’s not busy right now but my previous highest was 3 Mbps on LTE here. 12+2+4 VS 2+66+71+n71. And Sprint B41 3CAName:  C28E9075-F440-4A68-BBD1-99CF50700A7A.jpg
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    No new phone for me til X60 modems. I'm patient mainly because present tech is more than adequate for my needs.

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    For many/most... There is little benefit to 5g right now. I picked up mine, as I got it effectively for < $300. Of course, I don't even have a Qualcomm chipset

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    Quote Originally Posted by actinic View Post
    No new phone for me til X60 modems. I'm patient mainly because present tech is more than adequate for my needs.
    Same here, though I tend to shop MVNO's and refurb devices to get em a bit cheaper too.
    That being said, I can now say I've had my first refurb phone actually crap out on me. It stopped accepting ANY charging cables I own.

    So I've been telling people I've been "conned" into "upgrading" to an iPhone SE (1st Gen-Referb by Apple) simply because my carrier is selling the same model I just had that crapped out for a bit more than I paid for it. (If I'm getting a new phone, I will not buy the same exact model that I was currently using.) The very next least expensive smart phone was the iPhone SE. (I could go cheaper if I just wanted a basic phone.)

    Though, it's a bit of an upgrade to me now because Tello is now supporting VoLTE on most of the devices they sell, with my old e4 being one of the 3 exceptions. (Which would line me up to be first in getting Wifi calling whenever they turn that on too.)

    This will work for me for the foreseeable future, so I don't need to jump onto the 5G bandwagon while the tech is still in its infancy and not fully matured yet.
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    I’m keeping my iPhone 11 Pro at least until I’ve read 5G performance reviews on the upgraded 5G variant.

    Even after a year this phone continues to impress.

    I’ll likely buy the new 5G Revel series device to play around with but I’m in no rush.




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    Quote Originally Posted by @TheRealDanny View Post
    I’m keeping my iPhone 11 Pro at least until I’ve read 5G performance reviews on the upgraded 5G variant.

    Even after a year this phone continues to impress.

    I’ll likely buy the new 5G Revel series device to play around with but I’m in no rush.




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    Yeah, i got the OnePlus 8 5G when they had the promo (and I had to add a line anyway), otherwise I'm perfectly happy with this 11 Pro Max, as it's been solid and still gets me ~2 days of use (even on dual SIM and several gigs of LTE used each month)

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