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    High spam rate on new TFs with years service

    I installed Textra on my two TracFones that I got on TF's eBay store with a years service. I like Textra for some of the customizable features. Unfortunately I am getting a load of spam texts and could only blacklist them, or delete. Blacklist hides them but they're still there. It does little good because they text with a different number or address each time.

    I decided to switch back to Google Messages because it allows me to block/ report as spam so I hope it slows it down some.

    I don't care much for GM's basic features, can't customize colors only light/dark mode, can't switch outgoing SMS to MMS at the 2nd text like Textra (it saves on messaging costs), and other things I liked about Textra. But will see how it goes.

    These two phones are really text spammy but also get my share of unknown calls that I don't answer. The texts are worse because those get deleted off my text balance. If I don't answer the calls i don't have to pay for them so i just ignore those. If I get repeats from the same number I block that number.

    I don't want to change the numbers because I could end up with same or worse. I'm hoping the spammy texts will eventually dry up.

    They probably come from the same source. I don't open them but can tell by the approach or salutation and subject it's the same outfit. "Jack" is the name they address most often on one phone. Its about porn or Viagra, loans, credit, etc. The spam on the other phone is also porn junk.

    Years ago I had an app on my computer that let me ping the sender and I'd send the ISP data to someone to report the spam. It got rid of some of them. I think the app was called Sam Spade but it was like twenty years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WheelieBoot View Post
    I installed Textra on my two TracFones that I got on TF's eBay store with a years service. I like Textra for some of the customizable features. Unfortunately I am getting a load of spam texts and could only blacklist them, or delete. Blacklist hides them but they're still there. It does little good because they text with a different number or address each time.

    I decided to switch back to Google Messages because it allows me to block/ report as spam so I hope it slows it down some.

    I don't care much for GM's basic features, can't customize colors only light/dark mode, can't switch outgoing SMS to MMS at the 2nd text like Textra (it saves on messaging costs), and other things I liked about Textra. But will see how it goes.

    These two phones are really text spammy but also get my share of unknown calls that I don't answer. The texts are worse because those get deleted off my text balance. If I don't answer the calls i don't have to pay for them so i just ignore those. If I get repeats from the same number I block that number.

    I don't want to change the numbers because I could end up with same or worse. I'm hoping the spammy texts will eventually dry up.

    They probably come from the same source. I don't open them but can tell by the approach or salutation and subject it's the same outfit. "Jack" is the name they address most often on one phone. Its about porn or Viagra, loans, credit, etc. The spam on the other phone is also porn junk.

    Years ago I had an app on my computer that let me ping the sender and I'd send the ISP data to someone to report the spam. It got rid of some of them. I think the app was called Sam Spade but it was like twenty years ago.

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    You should ask Tracfone to change your number AND refund back your text balance. I had this happen to me (different provider, not TF) and they were very good about it. The new number was clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jettable View Post
    You should ask Tracfone to change your number AND refund back your text balance. I had this happen to me (different provider, not TF) and they were very good about it. The new number was clean.
    If it continues daily I'll have to try it. I like the numbers, easy to remember. The one on my LG Solo is two digits different than my main number, xx41 instead of xx14.

    Whoever had these numbers before me must've changed their numbers or maybe they were just temporary burner phone numbers. I'm sure the guys name wasnt really Jack.

    As I text I've just received another Jack spam.

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    Just got a "are you trying to sign in on Yahoo" email. I said no. I looked in the spam box of my Yahoo email and the notice was in there. It's probably a hack attempt but might be someone who had the phone's number associated with their Yahoo account and tried to sign in using the number (forgetting they hadn't taken the number off their email account.). I've had that happen once with one of my Gmail addies. Sort of scary. I actually clicked the no (that I'm not signing in on my Yahoo account) and it may not have been a genuine Yahoo notification. It couldn't have been if it went in the spam box. One of the people who works here had their Apple iPhone and associated accounts hacked and taken over by someone in China. Pretty scary stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WheelieBoot View Post
    One of the people who works here had their Apple iPhone and associated accounts hacked and taken over by someone in China. Pretty scary stuff.
    Have decent security and don't keep your whole life on one phone account. iPhones seem to be a favorite target because many owners are fixated on "gotta have an iPhone" and are not paying attention to anything else, IMHO.

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    My number was transferred over from my landline, and I am starting to get these bad texts. I want to keep that number. Is there anything I can do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soyjim View Post
    My number was transferred over from my landline, and I am starting to get these bad texts. I want to keep that number. Is there anything I can do?
    How much spam did the landline get? They can be pretty terrible. I had a bad one, and did not transfer the number when it was dropped to use cell service only. Different when you have an old line with a well known number you want to keep.

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    No phone number is immune, sooner or later they find you.

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    Also, a landline might have always had spam texts but they would not have been seen until one put the line on a cell phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loboheeler View Post
    How much spam did the landline get? They can be pretty terrible. I had a bad one, and did not transfer the number when it was dropped to use cell service only. Different when you have an old line with a well known number you want to keep.
    It had been discovered by spammers. The start of the no call list helped. Now that it is on TracFone I have to pay for text spam. had the number a very long time so I do not want to give it up.

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    Seems to happen after a new activation whether a port or new number. Really nothing can be done. Not worth changing a number. Just patience and pay the piper in the mean time and they eventually scale back go away with just an occasional one. If one pops up for me and the person isn't on my contact list I just clear them. You may get spam calls too; again if someone on my contact list doesn't pop up I ignore.

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    I tend to leave the bogus caller numbers on my call list so I can check to see if any are repeat calls. Most aren't.

    I don't bother blocking one time calls anymore figuring it'll needlessly fill up my blocked calls list. However repeat callers will be blocked. On one phone I had, it seemed like I didn't get a whole bunch of spam calls after I started blocking like it was really the same outfit just using different numbers and they finally gave up. It varies though. My main number will get relatively quiet for a while then start dishing again. Thank God for caller ID. But I wish there was a whitelist so anyone not on my contact list would be shunted automatically to a gray list (no ring, muted) and not have to listen to it ring.

    One day I had all my active phones on the desk and they were taking turns dishing spam calls and texts like it was a light show. One phone got three calls in a row from different numbers, one right after the other. Another said the call was from Sacramento but the country code was foreign. Dingbats. Unless Sacramento is outsourcing calls to Cambodia or wherever.

    One trick is to set the default ringer to a pleasant musical one and when spammers call, at least I get to listen to something nice.

    Since switching back to Google messages from Textra, and putting the bad texts on the block/report spam list, it does seem like the spam texts have slowed. Not entirely stopped but fewer of them. That might make sense since the format of the texts sound like they're from the same outfit.

    "Hi, Jack, yadda yadda."

    One time it was Sam, yadda yadda.

    Whatever, I wish someone would develop a legit whitelist function and phones get that preloaded with the phone app so it's functionally integrated as an option. Not bloatware but something that works. Blacklists just keep loading up but a whitelist makes more sense because it only allows preferred contacts to ring through.







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    One more thing... I was thinking maybe I should switch my main handset for cellular calls to a cheapo flip that is relatively good for calls but doesn't do texts. H20 isn't bad for occasional calls at 5c/min, $10/90 days, just don't answer crank calls. But their text and data rates are not cheap. If mobile data was kept off, ok, no data leakage. But spam texts would still deduct. So no go. But my two H20 numbers were relatively clean. Junk calls on one I just didn't answer, but no junk texts, and the second number almost no junk calls at all, no junk texts. Maybe I was just fortunate.

    I could also just do WiFi calls through Google Voice and Text Now free on a deactivated handset and forget the activated spam trawlers. I don't get almost any spam yet on the WiFi numbers, I wonder why. The only time I have to use an activated set is for trips away from the house WiFi. Otherwise WiFi would be okay as long as call quality works. I make almost all calls and texts etc at home.





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    Android Pie 9 is really good about blocking spam calls. The Phone settings has an option for it. It's far better than the NoMoRobo that's on my landline. If my Google Voice line is called, the mobiles stay quiet and only the landline rings. The mobiles show a spam call. NoMoRobo has really gone downhill. They have an Android app, too.

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    Anytime you activate a number it gets propagated all around the phone system. It's not just with the service provider. For example, it goes out to the Caller Name (CNAM) registrars. Somewhere in those updates the new numbers, number changes, etc. are getting skimmed. A new number is considered a hot prospect for the scammers to try. Usually the give up after a few days or weeks as long as you don't answer or reply.

    Android has Do Not Disturb mode. One of the options is to only allow contacts to ring through. I guess all others go to voicemail. Scammers almost never leave voicemail. I don't know what Android version first had DND. It is on one of my phones with Android 7 so it goes back at least that far.

    I set my default ringtone to Caller Unknown with a voice ringtone that I created. I created custom voice ringtones for a few close friends and family and assign the to the contact. When they ring the ringtone "speaks", "Call from X", etc.

    Texts from scammers are a whole other problem that I do not have a solution for, but I don't get many.

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