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Thread: Now T-Mobile can give US a full 5G Nationwide Network with speed

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    Now T-Mobile can give US a full 5G Nationwide Network with speed

    “ T-Mobile gets its hands on midband spectrum, the wireless airwaves coveted by carriers for their ability to boost speeds while still working indoors -- something the widely deployed low-band and millimeter-wave 5G networks can't do.”

    Sprint & T-Mobile will finally get to build the 5G network of its dreams.

    https://www.cnet.com/news/t-mobiles-...ll-5g-picture/

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    Hopefully, they will allocate at least some (e.g. 20 MHz) of band-41 to LTE to relieve the immediate problem of congestion on some urban cells.
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    I hope that Neville Ray immediately moves every Sprint Customers that owns a 5G phone to T-Mobile. Then transfer all Sprint 5G transmitters to T-Mobile. Then run Advertisement in Chicago that T-Mobile has indoor 5G with up to 500 Mbps.


    what it [ Sprint ] does have -- midband spectrum -- offers an "almost ideal blend of actually being able to work indoors and actually giving you significantly faster speeds than 4G," said Techsponential analyst Avi Greengart. When he tested Sprint's service on his phone in a hotel room in Chicago, Greengart saw download speeds between 300Mbps and 500Mbps.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRNewcomb View Post
    Hopefully, they will allocate at least some (e.g. 20 MHz) of band-41 to LTE to relieve the immediate problem of congestion on some urban cells.
    LTE will get a lot more than just 20 MHz of band 41. After all T-Mobile owns more Sub-3 MHz of spectrum than both AT&T and Verizon combined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shilohcane View Post
    LTE will get a lot more than just 20 MHz of band 41. After all T-Mobile owns more Sub-3 MHz of spectrum than both AT&T and Verizon combined.
    I think we値l see 60 MHz of 41 to start and then once NR is more widespread they値l open it up to 100 MHz , while keeping 2 carriers on LTE band 41 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Checker79 View Post
    I think we’ll see 60 MHz of 41 to start and then once NR is more widespread they’ll open it up to 100 MHz , while keeping 2 carriers on LTE band 41 .
    Agree that T-Mobile will get some unused Band 41 moved over to T-Mobile soon. However any place that Sprint currently has 5G deployed should just be transferred to T-Mobile intact. Don’t think there are many Sprint customers with 5G phones but they will be compatible phones on T-Mobile right now. This Sprint Massive MIMO using Band 41 that delivers up to 500 Mbps today inside building should have all T-Mobile customers added in for 5G. This is a pretty easy fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Checker79 View Post
    I think we値l see 60 MHz of 41 to start and then once NR is more widespread they値l open it up to 100 MHz , while keeping 2 carriers on LTE band 41 .
    Technically the 5G spectrum is n41 and the 4G band is 41. I think using the terms n41 and 41 should help avoid confusion. In many areas Sprint never has more than 73 MHz. My areas is one of those. Technically it has 73 MHz most everywhere the rest of the spectrum is leased. But in areas like mine the FCC will eventually auction of the remaining spectrum( sometime in 2021 ) which T-Mobile can then buy but so could at&t or Verizon. But I doubt either does, but you never know about Dish or Charter or Comcast or others.

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    Sprints huge stash of spectrum will be a huge boast to 5G deployment. The duopolys coverage rein is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shilohcane View Post
    LTE will get a lot more than just 20 MHz of band 41. After all T-Mobile owns more Sub-3 MHz of spectrum than both AT&T and Verizon combined.
    Well, I hope so. To date, the only officialish rumors re band-41 are about 5G. Not that it matters so much to me, out here in the sticks. It just seems like band-41 LTE would be necessary to support the transition in urban markets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hagar View Post
    Technically the 5G spectrum is n41 and the 4G band is 41. I think using the terms n41 and 41 should help avoid confusion.
    I致e seen the letter:馬, in front of 5G band designation more and more.

    I was using NR to label 5G before.

    I agree the former way helps alleviate confusion.
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    In comments to CNBC, incoming CEO Sievert said the operator is going to start on the construction of the network "almost immediately." He said the company would use equipment from its existing suppliers Nokia and Ericsson to build "the world's best 5G network."

    Sievert said that work on the network wouldn't be hindered much by COVID-19 because cell tower technicians will be able to arrive at work sites in separate cars and conduct their work apart from each other, thus avoiding spreading the virus.

    Separately, T-Mobile's network chief Neville Ray told Cnet that the operator would turn on its new 5G network first in Philadelphia, and that other cities would go live "rapidly" in the coming weeks.


    They aren稚 wasting any time

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    Quote Originally Posted by shilohcane View Post
    Agree that T-Mobile will get some unused Band 41 moved over to T-Mobile soon. However any place that Sprint currently has 5G deployed should just be transferred to T-Mobile intact. Don稚 think there are many Sprint customers with 5G phones but they will be compatible phones on T-Mobile right now. This Sprint Massive MIMO using Band 41 that delivers up to 500 Mbps today inside building should have all T-Mobile customers added in for 5G. This is a pretty easy fix.
    Doesn稚 T-Mobile have to re deploy all of sprints spectrum on each tower to make this work ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Checker79 View Post
    Doesn’t T-Mobile have to re deploy all of sprints spectrum on each tower to make this work ?
    I have also read T-Mobile will be able to almost immediately through just an APN change on phones make 60mhz of band 41 available for T-Mobile users.

    I look forward to this as Sprint has pretty good band 41 coverage in my area as it is so this will just overlay nicely. 60mhz is a HUGE boost in available spectrum.

    This will allow Tmobile to start moving Sprint phones over that can use all the spectrum as is and then they can dismantle Sprint's network region by region cutting those regions over to Tmobile completely. This process will be lengthy imo because Sprint is not MetroPCS but maybe they'll surprise me.

    This begs the question though of how Tmobile will deal with those existing Sprint customers who still use CDMA phones, not sure what kind of numbers we are talking on that though. I'd love to see conjecture on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Checker79 View Post
    Doesn稚 T-Mobile have to re deploy all of sprints spectrum on each tower to make this work ?
    Not necessarily. T-Mobile can use Sprint's existing infrastructure, altho I'm not sure that's what they plan to do. T-Mobile's existing base stations can host Sprint's band-25 spectrum at the flip of a virtual switch. I'm not sure about band-41. It just depends on what's the path of least resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRNewcomb View Post
    Not necessarily. T-Mobile can use Sprint's existing infrastructure, altho I'm not sure that's what they plan to do. T-Mobile's existing base stations can host Sprint's band-25 spectrum at the flip of a virtual switch. I'm not sure about band-41. It just depends on what's the path of least resistance.
    Eventually that is supposed to go to Dish but that's years away so until then sure. But in areas like mine where Sprint never offered service despite having the licenses to do so T-Mobile would have install the equipment. Sure they could immediately use Sprint PCS spectrum here but oh wait for some reason despite having the licences T-Mobile hasn't deployed that in my area either. Just activate their own and Sprint's 1900 spectrum would make me at least consider switching. Had they left band 71 at 15X15 instead of giving 2/3 over to 5G I would have 100% switched.

    It's when T-Mobile can cover areas like mine as good as Verizon and at&t is when they can finally force Verizon and at&t to make changes. I still say that's about 2 year away.

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