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    VoLTE Broken again with Samsung and latest Android 10 update for Verizon MVNO's

    This happened back on an update with the S8 and S9 awhile back that broke VoLTE on Verizon mvno's

    Guess whats back? The latest Android 10 update on the S10,S10+,Note 10, Note 10+ and assuming all the devices thats going to get the update will also be affected... So dont update if you use a Verizon Mvno like Red Pocket. Not sure if it affects carriers like Total Wireless or not though.
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    Wrong title

    The title is wrong. The VoLTE might be broken on your carrier, but not for all MVNO's.
    You don't know that, just made out a wide assumption. Why did you stop there, why you didn't declare that VoLTE is "broken" for everyone under Verizon? Or for everyone period?
    Also you didn't say what you mean by "latest update".

    TotalWireless here, VoLTE HD voice still working happily. Sounds to me like Red Pocked is the culprit.
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    Yes it's a Red Pocket problem. Samsung does not recognize it and leaves it with the XAA profile.

    I don't think it was ever fixed, just sort of worked for a few updates, mostly because B13 was added to the XAA profile.

    Agreed VoLTE is broke with 10.0 (with Red Pocket).
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    That's weird that XAA profile doesn't get VoLTE. That I would put that on Samsung... with their weird CSC codes. They copied Apple into this stupidity.
    Moto doesn't do any configuration based on the SIM. Sure, sometimes you need to get a SMS to autoconfigure the APN, sometimes it needs to be done manually... but it doesn't flash a different radio based on the SIM, like Samsung does.

    My unlocked S10 has a generic profile for Tracfone and that's what is in use for TotalWireless.
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    On your phone the active CSC is Trac (TFN). Interestingly enough on my Trac SIM (albeit dated) the CSC is VZW.

    For Red Pocket, as you can see below, the CSC is still at XAA. My guess is that there is some cost from Red Pocket to Samsung/VZW that they did not pay. Maybe it will get fixed, as was the MMS on Red Pocket AT&T with iPhones.

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    Nowhere does the title say ALL Verizon MVNO's. The title is correct.

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    It is plural (MVNO's). That's more that one... and implies usually "all" or at least most of "them".
    Especially when the texts says "dont update if you use a Verizon Mvno".
    Since the OP didn't test any others, the correct title would be to include only his experience/provider (Red Pocket).

    PS: When you say "Americans are stupid", it insults every American (all is implied), doesn't? You don't assume that it means just a specific one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoNic67 View Post
    It is plural (MVNO's). That's more that one... and implies usually "all" or at least most of "them".
    Especially when the texts says "dont update if you use a Verizon Mvno".
    Since the OP didn't test any others, the correct title would be to include only his experience/provider (Red Pocket).

    PS: When you say "Americans are stupid", it insults every American (all is implied), doesn't? You don't assume that it means just a specific one.
    The title of the thread states "VoLTE Broken again with Samsung and latest Android 10 update for Verizon MVNO's"

    VoLTE is broken again (as it was on Pie), "with Samsung" (does not say every Samsung phone made) "and the Android latest 10 update FOR Verizon phones."

    Your line of text was "The title is wrong." Had you said that the title could be interpreted as overly broad or confusing, I think you would have a case in my opinion.

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    Title didn't say "some MVNO's" or "my particular MVNO". Omission of any qualifier means a board range. So it is wrong.
    I have one example that is proving the title wrong (my Verizon MVNO). That's all it needs to prove a hypothesis wrong, in a scientific approach.

    Like I exemplified above, if somebody would say "Americans are stupid", that is meant as a broad brush, as in every one. It doesn't mean "only my neighbors" or "except people living in cities". You can't have limitation to that plural, unless you say so.

    Even clearer, if I create a post that says "Samsung VoLTE is working again for Verizon MVNO's" it will not be interpreted as in my particular MVNO, it will be interpreted broadly, as in "all".

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