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Thread: Wishing for a 4G/LTE "feature phone"

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    Quote Originally Posted by october262 View Post
    here is a list of phones that have the slide-out keyboards most are android most are not
    Thanks, but not a single item in that list of search results is a 4G/LTE non-smartphone with a qwerty keyboard. I learned long ago that just because The Google spits something back at you doesn't mean it has anything whatsoever to do with your search query.

    I've done lots of searching. More than anything, my original post was wondering aloud if anyone else would find such a device useful or desirable. It sounds like there are a few on this forum who would, either for themselves or a family member.

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    Well, I think that most of the active people here were aware beforehand that there was not going to be anything remotely like a hardware keyboard phone of any type that wasn't either an Android based device, or possibly something from a dead OS like BlackBerry 10, due to the chronology of when those devices would've been produced vs. when the VoLTE deadline is approaching for the various networks.

    Even the absolute final days of the last "sideways" texter phones TracFone put out are now several years past, so the only hardware keyboard devices that are available, of any type, are the ones from BlackBerry that are Android based (KeyOne & KeyTwo).

    For most people, as they've expressed it in the past, who were desirous of a hardware keyboard, they usually weren't too hung up on what operating system it used, as their primary interest was the keyboard type, and realizing that any other combination that provided that feature was long past. So dealing with the learning curve of an actual modern smartphone OS for that "priviledge" is a given.

    Device manufacturers, I would guess, see the demand for a hardware keyboard as negligible, and to make a device with one has to be more expensive and complex than a glass slab with a virtual keyboard. With devices priced where they already are I doubt hardware keyboards will be making a comeback. There are many stories and comments on the web about people dealing with the changeover to having to use a virtual keyboard. It's been a rising tide that there was no escape from. With the VoLTE requirements coming up, that will take care of wiping out the last vestiges of old device types some may have been holding on to.

    Even beyond that, eventually phone carrier texting itself is going to be undergoing a change that old devices wouldn't be able to keep up with, namely, the adoption of RCS standards. That will take quite a while, I predict, but will likely fully sweep that function up and transform it. At least with a full blown operating system (such as Android or iOS) a device can be "made newer" with functions it might not have originally had, provided of course the device hardware can run the level of the OS that takes care of that (overall compatibility).

    As device types go, I think it's great that there are at least a couple of choices for flip phone (clamshell) types that are VoLTE compatible, so that someone who really, REALLY wants to stay with that type into the VoLTE transition period can do so, and at a very affordable price point. But I have yet to see more than those few. It'll be interesting to see if that changes.

    Sorry for the long Sunday morning ramble!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardklg77 View Post
    Thanks, but not a single item in that list of search results is a 4G/LTE non-smartphone with a qwerty keyboard. I learned long ago that just because The Google spits something back at you doesn't mean it has anything whatsoever to do with your search query.

    I've done lots of searching. More than anything, my original post was wondering aloud if anyone else would find such a device useful or desirable. It sounds like there are a few on this forum who would, either for themselves or a family member.
    i just did an ebay for a 4G/LTE "feature phone and come up with this - https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...70.l1313&_nkw= but it has no slide out keyboard.

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    You're not understanding. After 12/31/19 any Vzw phone without VoLTE (HD Voice) will stop working on the Vzw network. After 4/30/19 any Vzw phone without VoLTE (HD Voice) will no longer be able to be activated on any Vzw MVNO. On 7/1/18, Vzw stopped activating any phone without VoLTE (HD Voice).

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    OK. I can see, as an academic exercise, to ask if there are any sideways slider phones (that expressly are not smartphones) to be found out in the big, wide, wonderful world. There may be (but not from the looks of any searches here so far), but as Boz1 points out, they won't work for long with the VoLTE standard coming into effect according to the timetables of the various carriers. None of that type of device was developed with that standard in mind, so the next best bet would've been something with a hardware keyboard that was a smartphone, if the primacy of the texting function was utmost in your mind.

    But it seems the prime factor is avoiding smartphones or having to deal with any current established OS, which makes us have to infer that you find that a negative.

    That's a personal, subjective matter, but certainly, it is a ship that has sailed.

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    No activity here in several months. Was wondering what phone was chosen? I am viewing the Kyocera Cadence, the LG Exault and kyocera Dura xvlte, none are excellant but I am giving up on teaching husband Smart Phone and he has used my older 3g phones till dying. So now it is getting to be crunch time.
    My favorite phone before Smart phone, was Envy Touch. Phones used to be so much more fun. The 3 above, Dura is expensive, Exalt is little less, ug.

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    The TracFone Alcatel MyFlip ($20 Best Buy, maybe less at Dollar General) is a flip-phone that has VoLTE. Others have activated it on PagePlus.

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    PP is selling the MyFlip, so yes, it works fine.

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    Just a suggestion for anyone still looking. Try the "Phone Finder" tool at phonescoop.com. Chose the advanced search button and pick the specific features you are looking for. The tool allows you to sort phones by your requirements. There are dozens of options you can pick to narrow down the phone you need. You can pick available and/or upcoming devices by carrier.
    Don't make me turn this car around.....

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    Got the MyFlip today. Works just as expected. Had a very pleasant and efficient interaction with PP over the phone, moving service to the MyFlip and changing me and my balance over to the 4G pay as you go plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam1991 View Post
    Got the MyFlip today. Works just as expected.
    Have you tried it calling someone with Verizon service to try out HD Voice? The account may have Visual Voicemail enabled, but the VoLTE basic phones don't have it. Have not heard of any problems with this on the MyFlip, but the earlier ZTE Z233 did have issues.

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    Good food for thought. Think husband is leaning to Exalt, but I fear if he drops it. I saw video on Alcatel, like it can go to Google. Need more research I guess. I did the phone scoop and it brought up Cadence, Kyocera Dura, Exault, ZTE phone and Sonim, but Alcatel my flip did not come up?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbara4 View Post
    Good food for thought. Think husband is leaning to Exalt, but I fear if he drops it. I saw video on Alcatel, like it can go to Google. Need more research I guess. I did the phone scoop and it brought up Cadence, Kyocera Dura, Exault, ZTE phone and Sonim, but Alcatel my flip did not come up?????
    Outside of Tracfone, I think the Alcatel MyFlip is called Alcatel GoFlip, Alcatel Cingular Flip 2, or Alcatel QuickFlip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loboheeler View Post
    Have you tried it calling someone with Verizon service to try out HD Voice?
    Well, I don't follow what service other people have. I couldn't tell you who I know who has VZW. I guess I'll have to ask so I can try it out.

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    Depending on how much of a "tech nerd" you are (either the original poster or just anyone else), here's something you could try if you feel like spending the time and money to experiment. While it wouldn't be a phone with a hardware keyboard, you could have essentially something like a higher-performance touchscreen feature phone by getting a phone with VoLTE support and an unlockable bootloader to install a 3rd-party OS or root (or a phone that's hackable enough to be almost equivalant to an unlocked bootloader). The goal here would be to either install a 3rd-party OS built from AOSP without Google apps or to at least disable them all and anything else not needed (if a 3rd-party OS won't support VoLTE yet). You also can add extra apps manually if/as needed that are free and don't rely on Google apps to run, though this is completely optional.

    Though not viable anymore because of the VoLTE requirement, I tried this once a few years ago on a Droid Bionic with great success. I installed a 3rd-party Android build without Google apps and just let the phone run without the screen on for most of the time, occasionally turning the screen on to check the battery and time since last charge, and it lasted about a week from a full charge even on an aged battery. That phone normally didn't have great battery life. Of course, unfortunately I don't think that phone can be made to work on Verizon VoLTE even with putting a new Android version on it from a third party. If it and similar phones could, I would definitely have suggested going this route with a Droid 4.

    As I mentioned above, even on a phone supporting Verizon VoLTE, it may not necessarily be working on a 3rd-party OS build, though. I haven't tried this myself, but as an alternative it may be possible to remove or at least disable all the relevant Google apps or other non-essential pre-loaded apps to get the same kind of barebones functionality and resulting increase in standby battery life but keep VoLTE functionality.

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