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    Why doesn’t Canada have unlimited data? Is it simple greed from providers?

    Hi all! Greetings from the US. With all of our providers offering unlimited now why doesn’t a single provider in Canada offer unlimited high-speed with congestion management just like in the US? According to a Canadian news report, providers “can’t”.

    Would love the input from those of you here.

    Thx!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmetz View Post
    Hi all! Greetings from the US. With all of our providers offering unlimited now why doesn’t a single provider in Canada offer unlimited high-speed with congestion management just like in the US? According to a Canadian news report, providers “can’t”.

    Would love the input from those of you here.

    Thx!
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    Freedom Mobile sorta-kinda offers unlimited.
    They throttle the usability out of your data after you hit your limits, but don't charge you extra.

    The American providers just recently starting offers of unlimited data, for the second time in recent years. They couldn't handle the choke points in the networks the last time.

    The Canadian carriers use the same argument.

    However with multiples of the bandwidth the Americans have, it comes down to the Oligopoly and the Bottom Line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmetz View Post
    Hi all! Greetings from the US. With all of our providers offering unlimited now why doesn’t a single provider in Canada offer unlimited high-speed with congestion management just like in the US? According to a Canadian news report, providers “can’t”.

    Would love the input from those of you here.

    Thx!
    USA offers unlimited data because net neutrality is dead
    The providers down there can and do employ techniques to prevent system issues

    Up in Canada we are unfortunate as we can not do what you do (its "illegal" and all)
    So providers give us huge data pools but most will either charge for overages or reduce speeds to an appallingly low level
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Peppermint View Post
    USA offers unlimited data because net neutrality is dead
    The providers down there can and do employ techniques to prevent system issues

    Up in Canada we are unfortunate as we can not do what you do (its "illegal" and all)
    So providers give us huge data pools but most will either charge for overages or reduce speeds to an appallingly low level
    Would you mind explaining that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmetz View Post
    Would you mind explaining that?
    Don't listen to this "expert". He has no idea what he's talking about. USA carriers offered unlimited data plans long before net neutrality was killed by the Trump administration. It has NOTHING to do with net neutrality. It still baffles me why he thinks net neutrality is bad. It's not the first time he attacked it on HoFo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Peppermint View Post
    USA offers unlimited data because net neutrality is dead
    The providers down there can and do employ techniques to prevent system issues

    Up in Canada we are unfortunate as we can not do what you do (its "illegal" and all)
    So providers give us huge data pools but most will either charge for overages or reduce speeds to an appallingly low level
    That makes no sense. I don't think you understand how Canadian networks are configured and managed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TadMorose View Post
    USA carriers offered unlimited data plans long before net neutrality was killed by the Trump administration.
    And just as quickly back then the US killed off unlimited data plans claiming network issues
    Tons of news sources on the net should you like to google about why the US killing net neutrality was a good thing (and it certainly has resulted in better plans today than what they offered years ago)

    The entire US push for unlimited data is directly from T-Mobile, who started zero rating services
    In the USA everyone applauded them for it
    When Canadian carriers such as Bell and Videotron started zero rating services people went up in arms and started trying to sue them over it

    THEN Canadians cry we pay more for data than the Americans do lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TadMorose View Post
    Don't listen to this "expert". He has no idea what he's talking about. USA carriers offered unlimited data plans long before net neutrality was killed by the Trump administration. It has NOTHING to do with net neutrality. It still baffles me why he thinks net neutrality is bad. It's not the first time he attacked it on HoFo.
    That’s what I thought too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Peppermint View Post
    And just as quickly back then the US killed off unlimited data plans claiming network issues
    Tons of news sources on the net should you like to google about why the US killing net neutrality was a good thing (and it certainly has resulted in better plans today than what they offered years ago)

    The entire US push for unlimited data is directly from T-Mobile, who started zero rating services
    In the USA everyone applauded them for it
    When Canadian carriers such as Bell and Videotron started zero rating services people went up in arms and started trying to sue them over it

    THEN Canadians cry we pay more for data than the Americans do lol
    Thank you for the detailed reply.

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