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    Quote Originally Posted by Weatheronthe8s View Post
    The smaller option with lower prices would be attractive for people who that's all they need which would be the smaller option's way of making money while the others are there to provide service to people who want the more expensive service but have to keep competitive because if they are too high, less and less people would want the service because there would be less value and drive more people to the cheaper service.
    Unfortunately, the smaller option has run its course as a viable business model. The customers will still want the latest technology and deploying that technology costs money. AT&T and Verizon have a larger scale and thus they have more resources to devote to deployment of new technology and wider coverage.

    By merging with Sprint, T-mobile can put themselves on a similar scale with AT&T and Verizon so they'll also have the resources for deployment of technology and coverage.

    Many businesses and many consumers won't consider T-Mobile or Sprint due to their coverage limitations. T-Mobile was the largest investor in Band 71 spectrum because they needed that to fill in coverage holes. They are not trying to remain a small, discount carrier. That is not their goal.

    The marketplace will benefit from a third strong competitor more than it will two competitors that are struggling to keep up with the big boys. I expect T-Mobile will be able to increase pricing if it is providing a better product. That's the way the marketplace works. But there will always be the MVNO's to provide cut-rate service to those who need and want that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weatheronthe8s View Post
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    That's where I'm originally from and T-Mobile there is a joke or it was the last time I was there. Had service from the East River Tunnel to near Ghent but didn't have any service until I got to the Greenbrier County line where I got Bands 2/12/66. Couldn't even roam on USCC or AT&T from the toll booth in Ghent to Sandstone. It wouldn't let me connect to either one so there was about 30 miles where my phone didn't work at all. Sprint has pretty good coverage in that whole gap with Bands 25/26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobrajet7 View Post
    Yeah, look at Canada's prices. Look at Comcast monopolies and duopolies
    When I look at Canada, I see a very different regulatory environment and population density. It's not relevant to the US cell service market. Neither are Korea, Japan, and Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mick_mandingo View Post
    This is under the assumption though that the national prices are kept where they are at because of Sprint. Not sure that's the case. Let's look at it this way, if service and features improve, but say there is a small increase in price, is that bad or good? Even with 3 dominate carriers you will still have competition. You can make the argument it will be more competitive because now all 3 can compete for the same customer. The thing with the cable industry is it's one company who sets the price in the area, and doesn't have to compete with anyone for that customer. That's not what is happening here. Now you have 3 carriers who will be on equal footing, all fighting for the same customer base. None of the 3 will want to lose any market share to the other. I can't say for sure prices won't rise, but price increases may have absolutely nothing to do with the merger as well. Who's to say even with Sprint separate, prices don't rise?
    Yeah. I wouldnít be surprised if prices donít rise either way. Itís basically inflation and sure, Sprint canít keep giving out $15 unlimited plans and expect to make money. But to have Sprint be up there with Verizon's prices, no way they would have any customers unless you live in an area like mine with generally better Sprint service than Verizon service. Itís just that there is a chance it could go out of control beyond inflation if this happens. If one provider raises their prices a few dollars, it could cause the others to do the same. All the providers could be competitive and price just a few dollars less than the other to get more customers. If all the services are just as good, you might as well go with the cheapest. But let's say Verizon decided to make a $100 a month plan. With equally good networks, the others could make their same plan maybe $95 a month to look more appealing which customers always like to save a buck. Then after they are happy with their amount of customers, they could turn around and make it the same as Verizon and balance it all out. Then another carrier could raise theirs by like $5 and start the whole cycle again. It could cause bills to get more expensive in an out of control way. I know it all sounds stupid now. But it could get out of control.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Qt0 View Post
    For me coverage/spectrum doesn't mean much, unless they build out more towers. I'd like to consider tmobile more, especially when they release their tv service... but despite technically having coverage here, there isn't enough buildout to make them viable for me. In my month of testing I averaged a smidge over 5Mbps. Thats just not going to cut it, especially for streaming. I'm also worried that when they merge, they'll shut down a bunch of 'redundant' sprint towers. Theres a lot of coverage overlap, but in some areas, sprint is a lot faster than tmobile (in my case actually)
    Yeah. They may keep some of the Sprint towers in places they are better than T-Mobile. Many people just assume T-Mobile is so much better than Sprint when theyíre really not. For me, coverage is more important than spectrum. But towers can become overloaded without adequate spectrum. 5 MBPS is not that great to have as an average speed. Even on my US Cellular back when I still had full speed data, I would usually average over 10 MBPS. I am stuck at 3 MBPS now though because of the plan Iím on. It works for me though surprisingly, I have found many things work better than Iíd expect them to. I even average better on Sprint(I have an iPad with unlimited high speed on it) in an area that in general doesnít have the best cell phone signal. Sprint even averages much better than that here in most parts of town in an area where they actually have a lot of customers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jet1000 View Post
    Unfortunately, the smaller option has run its course as a viable business model. The customers will still want the latest technology and deploying that technology costs money. AT&T and Verizon have a larger scale and thus they have more resources to devote to deployment of new technology and wider coverage.

    By merging with Sprint, T-mobile can put themselves on a similar scale with AT&T and Verizon so they'll also have the resources for deployment of technology and coverage.

    Many businesses and many consumers won't consider T-Mobile or Sprint due to their coverage limitations. T-Mobile was the largest investor in Band 71 spectrum because they needed that to fill in coverage holes. They are not trying to remain a small, discount carrier. That is not their goal.

    The marketplace will benefit from a third strong competitor more than it will two competitors that are struggling to keep up with the big boys. I expect T-Mobile will be able to increase pricing if it is providing a better product. That's the way the marketplace works. But there will always be the MVNO's to provide cut-rate service to those who need and want that.
    Yeah. I think this would be good from a technology perspective. But many people donít really care to have the latest and greatest technology. They just want something that works. Now, I donít mean anything, there has to be some standards, but it can be on slightly older technology and provide a satisfactory service. I think if Sprint would just improve the coverage, it would be much more appealing. Sure, prices may go up a bit, but just still have a lower priced option. Iím not expecting them to be so cheap they canít make enough money to improve the network. Maybe riding on not the latest technology all over the country. I just also hope that these MVNO services donít get too affected by this because MVNOs may be a very big option for many in the future depending on how this goes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oldsoul1989 View Post
    That's where I'm originally from and T-Mobile there is a joke or it was the last time I was there. Had service from the East River Tunnel to near Ghent but didn't have any service until I got to the Greenbrier County line where I got Bands 2/12/66. Couldn't even roam on USCC or AT&T from the toll booth in Ghent to Sandstone. It wouldn't let me connect to either one so there was about 30 miles where my phone didn't work at all. Sprint has pretty good coverage in that whole gap with Bands 25/26.

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    Yeah, Sprint does work good here. Kinda surprising considering T-Mobile doesnít exist at all. I live in Beckley and they still completely lack native coverage so they are still a joke. Iím not sure about if the roaming works now or not because I donít have T-Mobile. But my US Cellular still doesnít get VOLTE service so I wouldnít be surprised if itís still not working. They mayíve turned it on for just T-Mobile customers but Iím not sure. There would just be too many problems if they deployed it for USCC customers here because their LTE is very weak in a lot of places once I leave town. Iím not sure why the AT&T roaming wasnít working either. Maybe they never renewed the contract because they thought USCC would actually give them service.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobdevnul View Post
    When I look at Canada, I see a very different regulatory environment and population density. It's not relevant to the US cell service market. Neither are Korea, Japan, and Europe.
    Yeah, Canada is a very different market. The Canadian dollar is already worth quite a bit less than an American dollar. Itís population density is very low in many places Iím sure. Iím not sure what the prices were back when(or if) there was more competition. But despite all of this, there could still be problems that could play out despite us having a different market than Canada. They just might play out a bit differently.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Weatheronthe8s View Post
    Iím not sure about if the roaming works now or not because I donít have T-Mobile. But my US Cellular still doesnít get VOLTE service so I wouldnít be surprised if itís still not working. They mayíve turned it on for just T-Mobile customers but Iím not sure. There would just be too many problems if they deployed it for USCC customers here because their LTE is very weak in a lot of places once I leave town. Iím not sure why the AT&T roaming wasnít working either. Maybe they never renewed the contract because they thought USCC would actually give them service.
    Both AT&T (throttled 3G, as expected) and US Cellular (full-speed LTE/VoLTE) roaming were alive and well when I drove 77-19-79 and back around Christmas. Must have been a configuration issue on the other posterís phone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobdevnul View Post
    When I look at Canada, I see a very different regulatory environment and population density. It's not relevant to the US cell service market. Neither are Korea, Japan, and Europe.
    When I look at Canada I see PC police in full force.....but duopolies and how bad they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg5green View Post
    Both AT&T (throttled 3G, as expected) and US Cellular (full-speed LTE/VoLTE) roaming were alive and well when I drove 77-19-79 and back around Christmas. Must have been a configuration issue on the other posterís phone.


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    Yeah. Something must've been up. I think it's funny they give you all the VOLTE roaming but I don't get it natively as a USCC customer. Did your phone lose USCC LTE a lot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weatheronthe8s View Post
    Yeah. I wouldnít be surprised if prices donít rise either way. Itís basically inflation and sure, Sprint canít keep giving out $15 unlimited plans and expect to make money. But to have Sprint be up there with Verizon's prices, no way they would have any customers unless you live in an area like mine with generally better Sprint service than Verizon service. Itís just that there is a chance it could go out of control beyond inflation if this happens. If one provider raises their prices a few dollars, it could cause the others to do the same. All the providers could be competitive and price just a few dollars less than the other to get more customers. If all the services are just as good, you might as well go with the cheapest. But let's say Verizon decided to make a $100 a month plan. With equally good networks, the others could make their same plan maybe $95 a month to look more appealing which customers always like to save a buck. Then after they are happy with their amount of customers, they could turn around and make it the same as Verizon and balance it all out. Then another carrier could raise theirs by like $5 and start the whole cycle again. It could cause bills to get more expensive in an out of control way. I know it all sounds stupid now. But it could get out of control.


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    That's a valid concern, but, the thinking would be that it's Sprint that's keeping that from happening right now. I'm not sure that's the case. I don't think Verizon and At&t react to Sprint pricing in the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mick_mandingo View Post
    That's a valid concern, but, the thinking would be that it's Sprint that's keeping that from happening right now. I'm not sure that's the case. I don't think Verizon and At&t react to Sprint pricing in the least.
    Yeah. I don't think they react to it very much. Verizon and AT&T aren't very competitive with Sprint. But if they cost 5x more than Sprint(the regular pricing) I don't see them having very many customers in areas where Sprint works. So they cant just price it so high that Sprint looks literally dirt cheap by comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weatheronthe8s View Post
    Yeah. I don't think they react to it very much. Verizon and AT&T aren't very competitive with Sprint. But if they cost 5x more than Sprint(the regular pricing) I don't see them having very many customers in areas where Sprint works. So they cant just price it so high that Sprint looks literally dirt cheap by comparison.

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    Yeah but those people are already on Sprint. Which is why TMobile saying they will honor Sprint pricing is a good thing for those Sprint customers. I don't see TMobile going crazy with price increases, at least not right away. As services improve and gets better, sure I can see all the carriers doing some sort of increase. This likely will happen if Sprint is separate as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldsoul1989 View Post
    I did two coverage comparison maps of T-Mobile/Sprint as of Dec 30, 2018.
    Dark Green: T-Mobile 4G LTE
    Light Green: T-Mobile 3G/4G HSPA
    Grey: T-Mobile 2G EDGE
    Yellow: Sprint 4G LTE
    Does not include Sprint 3G Coverage



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    An issue with Tm maps and maybe others is while the maps at large scale (many miles per inch) may indicate solid green for great coverage, however when scale is changed to small, maximum detail(min miles per inch) the color changes to a lighter green or whatever color. And usually if it ain't the dark green color you ain't got no freekn' coverage. At least it's kinda honest. This may be true with other carriers too, dunno, as I usually have coverage with them.
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