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Thread: California is wanting to tax text messages for budget shortfall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veriztd View Post
    Yes, you would think so, but I think not.
    Try 3 problems .. the rail boondoggle, 77 billion and rising, fed & state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veriztd View Post
    Yes, you would think so, but I think not.
    So the government is really that bad....

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    Quote Originally Posted by @TheRealDanny View Post
    Surcharge amounts and what they pay for may change. Taxes and fees may also change from time to time without notice.
    They don't change that drastically and if they did for some reason then everyone would be feeling it and that would probably be the result of some bill or something that causes the county and state telecom and E911 taxes (the main two drivers behind this) to go up. I've only seen my bill go up and down a cent or two each month although maybe I'm fortunate enough to live where I am. Even as a "suburb" of NYC (50 mile radius is the general definition) we;re only getting hit with a $3-4 charge on the bill every month. I'm aware others have it worse but T-Mobile did a good gamble by taking something that is insignificant on bills and claiming they'll take care of it by slightly jacking up the all inclusive price and calling it a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotABiot View Post
    So-called gerrymandering doesn't really matter anyway. Regardless of how the district lines are done, it's always one person one vote. And people change parties from election to election all the time.
    Gerrymandering absolutely impacts taxation and policy.
    The state voted 60/40, yet the legislature is split 60/20.
    That doesn't happen in a vacuum.

    "One person, one vote" only truly applies for statewide offices and measures, and the latter are corrupted by the ruling party who gets to write the ballot titles, while the former is now subject to the "top two" primary system, which has the potential to lock out the opposition party, as it did in the US Senate race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molists View Post
    Gerrymandering absolutely impacts taxation and policy.
    The state voted 60/40, yet the legislature is split 60/20.
    That doesn't happen in a vacuum.

    "One person, one vote" only truly applies for statewide offices and measures, and the latter are corrupted by the ruling party who gets to write the ballot titles, while the former is now subject to the "top two" primary system, which has the potential to lock out the opposition party, as it did in the US Senate race.
    One person one vote applies to all offices, even with "gerrymandering". No, nothing happens in a vacuum: it all happens from how people choose to vote. But we do have sore losers who openly want to game the system because the voters rejected them (i.e. the US senate races). They aren't happy enough that they gamed the system in the House races by relying on election fraud (fake votes). They are afraid to the death of fraud prevention ideas such as voter ID because it would wipe out the fake votes. Votes from states like California and New York should be thrown out of national consideration as long as they encourage fake votes.

    See the Snopes article about how California actually encourages non-qualified foreign criminals to register to vote. While California does not actively encourage these criminals to cast fake votes after registration, it does nothing to weed them out after it registers them into the voting system. But isn't getting these criminals registered an indication of bad intent? Of course, corrupting the voter rolls with fake voters is a deeply partisan issue, with one party openly encouraging such fraud. If that one party had any decency, they would be in favor of deporting the foreign criminals who try to register for drivers licenses, instead of welcoming them to cast fraudulent votes.

    Another way a certain party wants to destroy democracy other than election fraud is the census system: there has been a push from this party the have the US Census make up imaginary citizens for Congressional districts instead of actually counting them:

    And the "top two" primary system does not lock out anyone, except those that the voters do not like: all they have to do is present convincing arguments to the voters. No one is "locked out" other than those rejected by voters. The strategy of one of the parties hinges mainly on election fraud and creating Congressional districts out of consideration to imaginary people.

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    The Feds (FCC) basically slapped California on this.
    https://thehill.com/policy/technolog...-text-messages
    AT&T... your world, throttled.

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