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Thread: I guess VZW canít hope to get more spectrum from DISH - buildout starting

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    Update: Dish's building permit was approved late last month. To date that's the only permit in the Reno area. Here's a video Dish recently posted about their first tower in Colorado. https://youtu.be/aECttYKkYCk
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    I wish that FCC would CBRS the whole cell spectrum. No more sitting on unused spectrum, that is a national resource.
    Sure, that would mean less revenue for FCC. Who cares, is not like government did something useful with the fees anyway. Make it an annual fee to be part of the new Super CBRS....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenoWirelessGuru View Post
    Update: Dish's building permit was approved late last month. To date that's the only permit in the Reno area. Here's a video Dish recently posted about their first tower in Colorado. https://youtu.be/aECttYKkYCk
    It's still BS. There is no buildout. They are just hoping this satisfies the FCC definition of build out so the FCC doesn't take away their spectrum next year. Someone is going to have to overpay if they want Dish to sell it. If the FCC takes the spectrum way it'll be 2022 or 2023 before it's auctioned off again and maybe another 2 year before it gets deployed.

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    Dish Network is Finally Building its Network

    Here's a related article:

    https://pocketnow.com/dish-network-5g-buildout

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    Over the past decade, Dish Network has spent $11 billion acquiring wireless spectrum across the low, mid and high bands. It was perceived that the company was either planning to utilize those waves to complement its satellite service or squatting on the licenses to sell to bigger carriers at inflated prices.

    Spectrum auctions have come and gone, though, and the market believes that any potential buyers were quite happy to look at alternatives. So, Dish decided to tell the FCC that it would be heading into the 5G game, but only from the perspective of the Internet of Things — applications in smart homes, live data streams for utilities, mixed reality media and other such things.

    It is now building that network out. The DishCareers YouTube channel has posted a video showing the erection process of its first tower in Windsor, Colorado, about an hour north of its headquarters in Englewood.



    If the inspiring language about disrupting and changing how people communicate in the video seems ambitious to you, keep in mind that the company told investors that it may desire to acquire more licenses to compete with the Big Four in the mobile arena — some observers may welcome the inject of new competition in the wake of a consummation between Sprint and T-Mobile.

    Dish expects to have its first deployment phase done by March 7, 2020. It will have a few regulatory challenges to face along the way, including persuading the government to allow 5G wireless service on one of its spectrum positions.
    ďThe Internet wasnít meant to be metered in bits and bytes, so itís insane that wireless companies are still making you buy it this way. The rate plan is dead ó itís a fossil from a time when wireless was metered by every call or text.Ē John Legere 1/5/2017

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    Update: The one and only Dish Wireless site in the Reno area (so far) is constructed.





    VZW panels on top, DW panels on bottom:


    Panoramic site overview. AT&T panels are mounted on water tank:



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    It's still BS. Hope the FCC isn't fooled and revokes the licenses net year.

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    Update: Dish applied for 2 more permits in Reno/Sparks this week, located on the west side and east side of the valley about 10 miles apart. Both sites are co-locations with existing T-Mobile sites.

    Time for a Dish forum yet? Probably not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenoWirelessGuru View Post
    Update: Dish applied for 2 more permits in Reno/Sparks this week, located on the west side and east side of the valley about 10 miles apart. Both sites are co-locations with existing T-Mobile sites.

    Time for a Dish forum yet? Probably not.
    Still BS. and I'll keep post that every time your post an update about their BS moves to avoid losing unused spectrum.

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    Until they actually announce some kind of product using their spectrum, we can assume it's a license protection network.

    I would expect nothing less of Charlie than to stir up a bunch of hype to hopefully convince the FCC that this is something OTHER than a protection network, although the FCC has never seemed to require a lot of convincing in the past.

    But better safe than sorry, right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by clonehappy View Post
    Until they actually announce some kind of product using their spectrum, we can assume it's a license protection network.

    I would expect nothing less of Charlie than to stir up a bunch of hype to hopefully convince the FCC that this is something OTHER than a protection network, although the FCC has never seemed to require a lot of convincing in the past.

    But better safe than sorry, right?


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    I agree, plus nobody has reported any sightings of Dish sites anywhere else yet. I'm sure it'll just end up being a protection network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GusHerb94 View Post
    I agree, plus nobody has reported any sightings of Dish sites anywhere else yet. I'm sure it'll just end up being a protection network.
    The thing is they have to have 70% coverage my next year. aint happening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hagar View Post
    The thing is they have to have 70% coverage my next year. aint happening
    Carriers like AT&T , Verizon and T-Mobile would put Dish spectrum to good use. Hopefully the FCC acts swiftly when Dish fails next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenoWirelessGuru View Post
    Update: The one and only Dish Wireless site in the Reno area (so far) is constructed.





    VZW panels on top, DW panels on bottom:


    Panoramic site overview. AT&T panels are mounted on water tank:



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    I have seen Sprint sites that look pretty close to that setup.

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    Just stumbled onto this site. Dish AWS-4 Spectrum Expiration Clock and other interesting info/opinion/commentary.

    https://makespectrumgreatagain.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dffdce View Post
    Just stumbled onto this site. Dish AWS-4 Spectrum Expiration Clock and other interesting info/opinion/commentary.

    https://makespectrumgreatagain.com/
    I'd rather Dish sell it off than the FCC take it an auction it since that would add years until it ever gets used. Obviously I'd prefer Verizon to buy it but really ANY of the carriers would be better than Dish having it. if the T-Mobile/Sprint merger gets denied I can see T-Mobile making a bid for it. If it's approved they really don't need it.

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