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    Yup, Iíve seen them on the maps! Very cool.


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    Is this a small cell, wifi AP? It's located at the Saddledome Scotiabank in Calgary.Name:  20191109_225433.jpg
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    Looks like a Cisco WiFi access point.
    https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/produc...ies/index.html
    Want to learn more about how LTE works?
    https://productioncommunity.publicmo...ls/td-p/130581

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    There are new antennas mounted on top of Nobletonís 2nd water tower...the one located north of Mactaggart Dr. on the west side of Hwy 27. The other water tower (farther south on Sheardown Dr.) already has Bell and Rogers antennas...Iím talking about the other water tower farther north). The equipment looks like Bell (Huawei) but Iím not 100% sure. Bell, Telus, and Rogers phones donít perform particularly well north and east of that area, so they could be Freedom antennas. Having said that, the site hasnít been registered in the ISED database, which might mean that itís not online yet...so thereís still the possibility that itís a Bell site.

    Can anyone confirm?


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    It could potentially be Rogers eNB 33939. Rogers still uses Huawei for 3G, the 4G should be Ericsson (they look like plain white rectangles). Likewise, many smaller providers also use Huawei for rural access (like Xplorenet)

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    @zivan Rogers is 100% Ericsson in Ontario.

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    Ah ok, my mistake, in the west they are still deploying Huawei 3G even on brand new upgrades, at least they were a few months back when I visited one.

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    Thanks guys. Iíll try to get a closer look and take some pics next time Iím up that way.

    Rogers has gotten very aggressive with new site builds in the last few months. Theyíve been filling in coverage gaps nicely in more and more semi-rural areas (outside the suburbs but not quite fully rural)...even in areas where Bell/Telus coverage is low. Interesting times!


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    Cell tower maps that pull data from the ISED database have recently been updated (as of Dec 4th) to show a bunch of Telus sites in the GTA. Theyíre all 1900MHz with channel widths of 2.5MHz. Does anyone know what these are? The old CDMA networks have been decommissioned so there shouldnít be any CDMA data in the database, but then again I wouldnít be surprised...



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    Those are 5 MHz B25 cells. Bell has deployed them in GTA, don't know why they show up as Telus.

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    Thanks. I canít believe how bad the data is represented in the db.


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    LTE (and 5G) knowledge sharing

    Update on that Nobleton water tower. I was up there the other day. Appears to be a Freedom site. They had a short monopole site slightly south and on the east side of Hwy 27, next to a school. That monopole is no longer there so Iím assuming theyíve relocated to the water tower. The equipment on the water tower looks identical to the equipment on a brand new tower that was just constructed on the north-west corner of Rutherford and Weston roads in Vaughan, which is also a new Freedom site. Nokia radios and antennas I believe.

    If Iím correct about the water tower site, then Nobleton residents now have stellar Freedom coverage and very mediocre Bell/Telus/Rogers coverage.

    Freedom has also gotten very aggressive with expansion recently...new sites popping up all over the place.


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    I think China is the only country that has real 5G deployed so far. These units can be found in offices and major hotels:

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    They are about the size of a home router and you might find several in a meeting room. An interesting feature is that they can host a private network as well as the usual public network. So if this is a China Mobile install, users on China Unicom can use the 5G features at their workplace. (the admin would enable this)

    This is an 8K monitor streaming from a 5G node at the Huawei R&D centre in Shanghai:

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    You can see the bit rate in the lower left of the screen. It as varying between 150 and 300 while I was there.

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    It's hard to tell from that picture, but it looks like a Huawei Lampsite radio or picocell with a 5G sticker on it. But what do you mean by China being the only country having real 5G? Are you talking about SA? I don't think they have SA yet. Korea and US have NSA already, as do a few other countries.
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    I donít think the 5G deployments in the US are offering anything substantial yet. At best, Verizon has some spots where you can look at your screen and say wow Iíve got 5G but itís not really useful for anything other than speed tests to show your friends. T-mobile to its credit has a much wider coverage but doesnít really offer anything more than a 20% faster data rate on a narrow bandwidth. These arenít fulfilling the promise of 5G.

    Sorry I am not familiar with the progress in South Africa but think itís great if they are moving 5G along.

    China has useful 5G today and offers a wide variety of handsets and other devices to take advantage of it.

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