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    Quote Originally Posted by tyroned3222 View Post
    I can’t find the article anymore, but I still have some quotes from it.

    AT&T officials have stated repeatedly that the carrier plans to install gear that will let it operate on 20 MHz of WCS airwaves and 20 MHz of AWS-3 spectrum at every location where it deploys equipment to support operation on the 20 MHz of Band 14 spectrum that is licensed to FirstNet.

    “95% of the American population will be covered by Band 14,” Sambar said. “People were giving us a hard time, saying, ‘You’re not putting [Band 14 equipment] on every tower; you’re skipping some areas.’ And we said, ‘No. In all of the populated areas we’re [deploying Band 14], and it ends up being 95% of the population.

    “There’s thousands of towers that won’t get it [Band 14 coverage], which—if you think about how a network is built out—makes sense, right? There are rural areas where there’s already capacity, and you don’t need to add another spectrum band. But the vast majority of Americans will have Band 14 access.”

    AT&T already is deploying cell sites that operate on the 700 MHz Band 14 spectrum licensed to FirstNet and expects to finish the buildout—covering 95% of the U.S. population—well before the contracted five-year contract period expires in most cases, according to the AT&T executive heading the project.

    Sambar also said: the first 12-18 will
    Show the most progress with the band 14 rollout

    Hope this info helps


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    I remember reading that article. It's probably in the FirstNet archives.

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    According to some locals, AT&T is co-locating on a few Appalachian Wireless sites in eastern Kentucky. I’ll be on the lookout for B14.
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    So band 14 will cover 95% of the US population (POPS) over the next 5 years. That doesn't sound to me like AT&T is adding much coverage (if at all) outside their existing footprint using FirstNet spectrum. Am I wrong here? I was thinking they would add it to all the areas that are existing coverage black holes?

    https://www.fiercewireless.com/wirel...-over-firstnet

    As it stands Verizon already holds claim to cover more than 400k more miles (wirelessly) than AT&T does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by @TheRealDanny View Post
    So band 14 will cover 95% of the US population (POPS) over the next 5 years. That doesn't sound to me like AT&T is adding much coverage (if at all) outside their existing footprint using FirstNet spectrum. Am I wrong here? I was thinking they would add it to all the areas that are existing coverage black holes?

    https://www.fiercewireless.com/wirel...-over-firstnet

    As it stands Verizon already holds claim to cover more than 400k more miles (wirelessly) than AT&T does.
    To my knowledge att currently doesn’t cover 95% of the population with their LTE network ... a good chunk is but the remainder is cover via hspa + for this contract to be fulfilled it would have to be all LTE with new added coverage I saw on another article
    And AT&T is looking to trim the timeframe down to three years from five


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    Quote Originally Posted by tyroned3222 View Post
    To my knowledge att currently doesn’t cover 95% of the population with their LTE network ... a good chunk is but the remainder is cover via hspa + for this contract to be fulfilled it would have to be all LTE with new added coverage I saw on another article
    And AT&T is looking to trim the timeframe down to three years from five


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    I was under the impression that AT&T would be adding "new coverage," as-in expanding their network geographically to new areas with the FirstNet spectrum?

    If they only plan on covering 95% of Americans over a 5 year period then they already ceded the coverage department argument to #3 who plans to offer LTE/5G to more Americans than that. (unless they plan to expand geographically using existing spectrum bands?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by @TheRealDanny View Post
    I was under the impression that AT&T would be adding "new coverage," as-in expanding their network geographically to new areas with the FirstNet spectrum?
    To my understanding , yes ! From what I’ve been reading in different articles.. currently most of the 400,000 square miles that Verizon covers is still covered by AT&T via HSPA plus....
    so how large part of this rollout will be upgrading current sites to LTE... and adding new coverage... Talking to a few people around the industry and they’re saying once this rollout is done AT&T’s LTE network could be larger than Verizon’s


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    With AT&T agreeing to let FirstNet/First responders utilize all their existing deployed spectrum, they should be deploying B14 in rural areas and no coverage areas first! That's the point of it. It's impossible to cover every square inch of the U.S., but there are a lot of dead spots that should be filled especially along main roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10mm View Post
    With AT&T agreeing to let FirstNet/First responders utilize all their existing deployed spectrum, they should be deploying B14 in rural areas and no coverage areas first! That's the point of it. It's impossible to cover every square inch of the U.S., but there are a lot of dead spots that should be filled especially along main roads.
    Agreed. The official network of our nation's first responders should offer the most coverage in all areas where it's reasonable to build and then some.

    A first responder shouldn't have to pull out their personal Verizon phone to make a call out in remote areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @TheRealDanny View Post
    Agreed. The official network of our nation's first responders should offer the most coverage in all areas where it's reasonable to build and then some.

    A first responder shouldn't have to pull out their personal Verizon phone to make a call out in remote areas.
    Yep. There are areas in Michigan where even Verizon doesn't have service.

    There are so many existing towers to collate on and Microwave has replaced the need to run Enet to rural and remote sites that otherwise would take a lot of time and funds to complete. I guess we'll see how it pans out.

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    Band 14 Sightings Thread

    Areas such as eastern Kentucky, Verizon has no native service and our local carrier is the only option for reliable coverage. I am an AT&T customer here, but if I were a first responder there’s no way I could be. AT&T has a long, long way to go here in the mountains. All sites but one are LTE though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @TheRealDanny View Post
    A first responder shouldn't have to pull out their personal Verizon phone to make a call out in remote areas.
    I have to LOL at that. There are plenty of areas around here that I can take you to that Verizon will have "NO SERVICE". But Verison has great brainwashing though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @TheRealDanny View Post
    Agreed. The official network of our nation's first responders should offer the most coverage in all areas where it's reasonable to build and then some.

    A first responder shouldn't have to pull out their personal Verizon phone to make a call out in remote areas.
    They mention it's for capacity(b14) above all so I wonder if those trouble att spots will remain

    They make it sound like b14 won't be as widespread as I originally thought
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    If it’s in the FirstNet agreement to deploy then AT&T has to provide coverage that was agreed upon.

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    If you go through the FirstNet website and look at each state's media release, they all make mention that the underserved areas of the state will have better, more reliable coverage. They mentioned it for the pine barren of NJ and for N.Y. they mentioned better coverage across the Adirondacks and solid coverage across the long island sound to Connecticut. I think they mentioned antennas oon buoys or something of that nature.

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    With HPUE available on all currently released UE, I can't imagine there will be a regression with that feature. That increases Tx power from 23 to 31 dBm, which is a drastic increase in uplink power. I'm really intrigued to see how B14 works for others here with the S9 once it's more widespread, and I might have to get the 2018 iPhone if all turns out well.

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