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    How will the Att 2g gsm shutdown affect Tmobile's roaming capabilities ?

    The Att network shuttered permanently its 2G frequency spectrums December 31. No more 2g only devices or frequencies on anything Att, it's prepaid divisions or mvnos on the 850/1900 MHz gsm frequency which was its backbones for years. That's fine. But how does and to what extent does this affect Tmobile's roaming capabilities ?
    Considering that Volte is stronger then ever on Tmobile , does it really affect it a lot? Probably doesn't make a difference on their prepaid mvnos which run on ONLY Tmobile native but on Tmobile postpaid and prepaid (which does have a big roaming coverage advantage over their mvnos), what would the direct effect and impact be?

    Would any device that has 3g hspa/wcdma 1900 MHz still have the same level of roaming as a 2G device once did or not? That is the frequency that Tmobile has in common with Att's network for voice/sms/data after the Att shutdown.

    Views and opinions are great. Facts would be better. Please post 'em if you got 'em. Thanks.

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    I ended up using a Blackberry 9900 and found it is better without ATT in the way. Days before the shut down I would lock into ATT towers and get SOS on the bars. Now I get Edge everywhere I go now.

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    How will the Att 2g gsm shutdown affect Tmobile's roaming capabilities ?

    Everytime I was roaming it was on h+ with 2g speeds.


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    There are a few areas I pass thru that I would drop to att edge for a few miles and it's not a huge deal but at the same time it would be nice to have something to fall back on

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    A considerable amount of roaming was lost in Alabama and TN and I have yet to see it replaced with HSPA roaming.

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    They would probably be able to roam on at&t hspa network just capped at 2g speeds

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    Figured I'd add this, was in mount pleasant, mi at soaring eagle casino and it very center of building went to send a text message and saw I was on hpsa+ checked LTE discovery and was on att roaming.

    Still drop LTE halfway between bay city and unionville for a mile or so and have some pretty weak band 12 in multiple spots that'll the call will get quite choppy/drop and miss parts of conversation where I used to drop to att edge. Not huge deal but like to eat at restaurant out in that area occasionally and signal is pretty rough out there.

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    Maybe one of us can ask Neville online?

    Does T-Mobile plan or intend to backfill lost AT&T 2G roaming with new native service in the areas where AT&T isn't planning on upgrading their infrastructure to HSPA or LTE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by @TheRealDanny View Post
    Maybe one of us can ask Neville online?

    Does T-Mobile plan or intend to backfill lost AT&T 2G roaming with new native service in the areas where AT&T isn't planning on upgrading their infrastructure to HSPA or LTE?
    If anyone asks, ask if they will also allow roaming on AT&T HSPA in areas where AT&T shut down GSM. I now only get "limited service" where I used to get EDGE and could call and text.

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    i know T-Mobile is supposedly building out 700 Mhz here in Southeastern WV and West Central VA (Staunton VA-WV Market)it supposedly roamed on AT&T before the 2G shutdown. they are also suppose to be getting an LTE Roaming agreement with Sprint which would make sense since Sprint has nearly the whole state covered in LTE. if not Sprint it's likely USCC but they only cover the eastern part of the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldsoul1989 View Post
    i know T-Mobile is supposedly building out 700 Mhz here in Southeastern WV and West Central VA (Staunton VA-WV Market)it supposedly roamed on AT&T before the 2G shutdown. they are also suppose to be getting an LTE Roaming agreement with Sprint which would make sense since Sprint has nearly the whole state covered in LTE. if not Sprint it's likely USCC but they only cover the eastern part of the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldsoul1989 View Post
    i know T-Mobile is supposedly building out 700 Mhz here in Southeastern WV and West Central VA (Staunton VA-WV Market)it supposedly roamed on AT&T before the 2G shutdown. they are also suppose to be getting an LTE Roaming agreement with Sprint which would make sense since Sprint has nearly the whole state covered in LTE. if not Sprint it's likely USCC but they only cover the eastern part of the state....
    Since the 700 MHz license boundaries don't necessarily follow state lines, T-Mobile does actually have the 700A license in a few counties in WV. I don't see any evidence that T-Mobile is building any LTE coverage in WV, outside of the Northern Panhandle. T-Mobile and Sprint are barely on speaking terms and have shown no interest in roaming each others' coverages. T-Mobile's handsets are largely incompatible with he RF bands Sprint uses and Sprint is VoLTE-resistant. All of which makes their cooperation unlikely. USCC uses compatible RF bands and is embracing VoLTE, at least for roaming. They have significant low-band holdings in the region coupled with a long-term established business footprint. They will be T-Mobile's future roaming partner in WV.
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