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    Forced my s10+ to band 5 only here in Washington Square Park NYC. Nothing works, is it connected to AT&T? Name:  Screenshot_20200528-150315_Service%20mode%20RIL.jpeg
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiredGuy View Post
    Forced my s10+ to band 5 only here in Washington Square Park NYC. Nothing works, is it connected to AT&T? Name:  Screenshot_20200528-150315_Service%20mode%20RIL.jpeg
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    Nope. 311-480 is Verizon. Quite possibly testing it and parameters aren't set to allow commercial users on it just yet.

    Edit: That's CLR B. Definitely VZ there.

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    I stumbled across this reddit post about band 5 and thought it might be something to read for anyone interested. https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/com...omment/dsvc85e

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    Just popping in to ask if there’s been any new developments for areas now seeing B5. Also, remind me, the maximum bandwidth for B5 is 10MHz right?

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    Verizon band 5 deployment

    Quote Originally Posted by DebiLee View Post
    Just popping in to ask if there’s been any new developments for areas now seeing B5. Also, remind me, the maximum bandwidth for B5 is 10MHz right?
    10x10 in most markets where they own 25 MHz . Some market they do own 50 MHz of 850 like Phoenix AZ for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebiLee View Post
    Just popping in to ask if there’s been any new developments for areas now seeing B5. Also, remind me, the maximum bandwidth for B5 is 10MHz right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Checker79 View Post
    10x10 in most markets where they own 25 MHz . Some market they do own 50 MHz of 850 like Phoenix AZ for example.
    10x10 yes. In Phoenix where they own all the 850 MHz spectrum they can do 2 10x10's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Checker79 View Post
    10x10 in most markets where they own 25 MHz . Some market they do own 50 MHz of 850 like Phoenix AZ for example.
    And in some markets like Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, Miami, Orlando, Jacksonville and Milwaukee they own none. They really need to get with at&t and swap some of that extra band 5 for at&t's band 5 already win-win it would seem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hagar View Post
    And in some markets like Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, Miami, Orlando, Jacksonville and Milwaukee they own none. They really need to get with at&t and swap some of that extra band 5 for at&t's band 5 already win-win it would seem.
    Swap it with what? You really think att is going to give that up? Lol no

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    Quote Originally Posted by thotguy31 View Post
    Swap it with what? You really think att is going to give that up? Lol no

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    At&t swap their extra 850 get get 850 in areas they don't currently have?. Take Phoenix, Verizon has both blocks which means at&t has NONE. You don't think at&t would like 850 in Phoenix? Since their lowband 5G uses 850 that mean at&t customers in Phoenix get none. As well as Cleveland and Charlotte among others. yeah at&t doesn't want customers in those areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hagar View Post
    At&t swap their extra 850 get get 850 in areas they don't currently have?. Take Phoenix, Verizon has both blocks which means at&t has NONE. You don't think at&t would like 850 in Phoenix? Since their lowband 5G uses 850 that mean at&t customers in Phoenix get none. As well as Cleveland and Charlotte among others. yeah at&t doesn't want customers in those areas.
    Att will do n2 and n12 in Phoenix. If you think VZW will give all that up when att has bands 12,14,29 you're crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by thotguy31 View Post
    Att will do n2 and n12 in Phoenix. If you think VZW will give all that up when att has bands 12,14,29 you're crazy

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    n2 is 1900 not even in the same league as 850. Carriers do spectrum swaps all the time and have for years. at&t has made no announcements about using band 12 or 14 for 5G anytime soon. I guess Verizon is willing to lose the whole east coast of Florida to keep all that 850 In Phoenix, Charlotte and Cleveland etc? At this point you'd rally have to have screw lose to have Verizon in Texas( except Houston ) or the east of of Florida

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hagar View Post
    n2 is 1900 not even in the same league as 850. Carriers do spectrum swaps all the time and have for years. at&t has made no announcements about using band 12 or 14 for 5G anytime soon. I guess Verizon is willing to lose the whole east coast of Florida to keep all that 850 In Phoenix, Charlotte and Cleveland etc? At this point you'd rally have to have screw lose to have Verizon in Texas( except Houston ) or the east of of Florida
    The swaps have been for contiguous blocks on either AWS or PCS. Not anything else. Vzw has B13 and deploys tons of small cells, so I'm not sure what you're getting it

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    Quote Originally Posted by thotguy31 View Post
    The swaps have been for contiguous blocks on either AWS or PCS. Not anything else. Vzw has B13 and deploys tons of small cells, so I'm not sure what you're getting it

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    n13 is not even a thing yet and won't be until at least early 2022 at the earliest. How can you not know what I'm talking about?

    It's like this. Take Miami area. So once T-Mobile renews it's 600 MHz leases with Dish they will have a total of 30X30 MHz, at&t just in 850 will have 20X20 MHz Verizon has ZLICH on low band for 5G. Maybe in 2022 then it's 10X10 at best. Considering the high prices Verizon charges why would you pay more for less?

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    Verizon band 5 deployment

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hagar View Post
    And in some markets like Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, Miami, Orlando, Jacksonville and Milwaukee they own none. They really need to get with at&t and swap some of that extra band 5 for at&t's band 5 already win-win it would seem.
    Yes Verizon is hurting for low and mid band in those markets . I was down in Miami last October and AT&T smoked them in speeds . Verizon was overall consistent because they’re spaced for PCS density, just not the fastest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Checker79 View Post
    Yes Verizon is hurting for low and mid band in those markets . I was down in Miami last October and AT&T smoked them in speeds . Verizon was overall consistent because they’re spaced for PCS density, just not the fastest.
    Which is why I suggested spectrum swap and yet get ridiculed by thotguy31. I never said it WOULD happen only said it SHOULD happen. Both companies should be interested in having a more consistent nationwide network especially in the top 50 markets

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