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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackdad View Post
    Another slap in the face is that they have dropped the cross border PPT to canada. Since they couldnt sign a spectrum repos agreement like they did in mexico. The next question how is sprint going to handle the southeast since they only half of the available spectrum due to solinc running iden in georgia and alabama. Another spectrum crunch in in puerto rico where they have 1900 pcs but the 800 esmr is being ran by another provider proxtel.

    Looks like the nation wide network is a hodge podge of exceptions. Border to canada and mexico cant run 800 mhz due to interference. In the south east so linc still running iden so their spectrum is cut in half. In the carribean another issue. All this with the new network vision. For a company wanting to improve the experience on their network it sure seems it wont be consistent.
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    Solinco (south) areas will run 3x3mhz LTE with CDMA 1x on chanel 5xx (forgot the #) instead of 476.

    The northern Canadian border will not have any SMR 800 service at all for the foreseeable future except at Ohio. Every site deployed within 100-140km of the Canadian border are part of the Canadian International Boundary Exclusion Zone and have PCS only Antennas deployed.
    Ohio is a special case as it's a Motorola to samsung market which causes huge issues with hand offs as seen in Chicago so they're deploying SMR 800 1xA and possibly LTE at very reduced power settings (about the same coverage as PCS) to avoid the issues they faced in Chicago.

    Southern Mexican IBEZ are being deployed with the standard network vision antennas and misc. gear except that they do not install any SMR 800 RRUs to activate SMR. The channels down there are interleaved with Mexico so it's going to be a pain in the *** to clear it all for wideband operations but it can be done and all their plans eventually call for SMR 800.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilotimz View Post
    Solinco (south) areas will run 3x3mhz LTE with CDMA 1x on chanel 5xx (forgot the #) instead of 476.

    The northern Canadian border will not have any SMR 800 service at all for the foreseeable future except at Ohio. Every site deployed within 100-140km of the Canadian border are part of the Canadian International Boundary Exclusion Zone and have PCS only Antennas deployed.
    Ohio is a special case as it's a Motorola to samsung market which causes huge issues with hand offs as seen in Chicago so they're deploying SMR 800 1xA and possibly LTE at very reduced power settings (about the same coverage as PCS) to avoid the issues they faced in Chicago.

    Southern Mexican IBEZ are being deployed with the standard network vision antennas and misc. gear except that they do not install any SMR 800 RRUs to activate SMR. The channels down there are interleaved with Mexico so it's going to be a pain in the *** to clear it all for wideband operations but it can be done and all their plans eventually call for SMR 800.
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    What about BEA 174? What exceptions are they doing there? I know in USVI they can run the full gambit. But being only 50 miles away from Puerto Rico won't they interfere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackdad View Post
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    What about BEA 174? What exceptions are they doing there? I know in USVI they can run the full gambit. But being only 50 miles away from Puerto Rico won't they interfere?
    There is absolutely nothing stopping Sprint from deploying SMR in PR / VI but I've seen original the network vision documents and there was zero information on SMR services there. Information on PR/VI is very limited at this time as plans no doubt changed and will change with Softbank in the picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilotimz View Post
    There is absolutely nothing stopping Sprint from deploying SMR in PR / VI but I've seen original the network vision documents and there was zero information on SMR services there. Information on PR/VI is very limited at this time as plans no doubt changed and will change with Softbank in the picture.
    http://www.fcc.gov/document/improvin...to-rico-and--0

    Looks like a pissing contest in BEA174. There are two smr networks on the island and they fighting Sprint to surrender its holdings. So it looks like no 800 CDMA. The headache for a place that Nextel never built out the network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackdad View Post
    http://www.fcc.gov/document/improvin...to-rico-and--0

    Looks like a pissing contest in BEA174. There are two smr networks on the island and they fighting Sprint to surrender its holdings. So it looks like no 800 CDMA. The headache for a place that Nextel never built out the network.
    No, it doesn't look like that at all. For one, the document that you are citing is ~2.5 years old. Two, did you read the end of the document?

    IV. DECISION

    28.
    Petitioners were on notice from the Third Report and Order that repetitious petitions
    seeking reconsideration of settled matters were impermissible,68 yet proceeded to file pleadings that
    ignored that caveat with respect to the majority of issues raised in the petitions. We admonish petitioners
    for wasting the resources of the Commission and other parties forced to deal with petitioners' repetitive

    filings and, as noted supra, dismiss those portions of petitioners' pleadings that raise already settled
    issues.
    29.
    Petitioners' claims that were not repetitious we have considered on the merits and found
    that petitioners have failed to make a persuasive case that the rules adopted in the Third Report and
    Order are not in the public interest. Therefore, we are denying those claims.
    V. ORDERING CLAUSES

    30.
    Accordingly, IT IS ORDERED that the Petition for Reconsideration filed by
    Smartcomm, L.L.C., Kenneth Fry and Preferred Spectrum Investments, LLC is DISMISSED IN PART
    AND DENIED IN PART as specified herein.
    31.
    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the Joint Petition for Reconsideration filed by Preferred
    Communications Systems, Inc., its subsidiary Preferred Acquisitions Inc., and Charles D. Guskey (Guskey)
    is DISMISSED IN PART AND DENIED IN PART as specified herein.
    32.
    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the Petition for Reconsideration filed by Concepts to
    Operations IS DISMISSED.
    33.
    This action is taken under delegated authority pursuant to Sections 0.191 and 0.392 of
    the Commission's rules, 47 C.F.R. 0.191, 0.392.
    FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
    Michael J. Wilhelm
    Deputy Chief, Policy Division
    Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau
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    Those two petitioners that you mentioned were denied and dismissed.

    More recent information indicating that the re-banding in BEA174 is going apace: http://www.800ta.org/content/reporting/QPR_03.31.13.pdf

    a. Negotiations
    As of March 31, 2013, two PFAs, with a total contract value, including amendments, of $0.2 million, were approved by the TA for Puerto Rico licensees that must be reconfigured from 816.5-821/861.5-866 MHz.
    All of the NPSPAC licensees in Puerto Rico have negotiated and submitted FRAs to the TA. Appendix 3A contains information about FRAs for NPSPAC licensees in Puerto Rico.

    The 90-day mandatory negotiation period for the remaining high-site non-Public Safety incumbent licensees in Puerto Rico that must be reconfigured from the 816.5-821/861.5-866 MHz portion of the band began on September 20, 2010 and the mediation period began on December 21, 2010. As of March 31, 2013, all of the eight mediation dockets opened for Puerto Rico licensees had been resolved.
    As of March 31, 2013, seven FRAs (100 percent) were submitted to the TA out of the seven FRAs anticipated for Puerto Rico licensees that must be reconfigured from 816.5- 821/861.5-866 MHz. The TA has approved seven FRAs with a contract value, including amendments, totaling approximately $1.0 million. Appendices 2 and 3C provide additional information.

    b. Reconfiguration Implementation
    As of March 31, 2013, there were three FRAs for which Puerto Rico licensees that must be reconfigured from 816.5-821/861.5-866 MHz had completed their physical retunes and transitioned to their new channels. As of March 31, 2013, physical retuning was complete for 43 percent of these FRAs.

    As of March 31, 2013, there were six FRAs for which Puerto Rico NPSPAC licensees had completed their physical retunes and transitioned to their new channels. As of March 31, 2013, physical retuning was complete for 100 percent of Puerto Rico NPSPAC FRAs.

    5. ESMR Band Licensees
    Quarterly Progress Report for the Quarter Ended March 31, 2013
    There are some non-border high-site licensees located in the ESMR Band (817-821/862- 866 MHz) that are required to relocate to frequencies in the non-ESMR band below 816/861 MHz. The TA placed these licensees on the same schedule for FRA negotiations and mediation as the Puerto Rico licensees. As of March 31, 2013, all of the five mediation dockets opened for ESMR Band licensees had been resolved. As of March 31, 2013, the one FRA anticipated for an ESMR Band licensee was submitted to and approved by the TA. As of March 31, 2013, the licensee in this FRA had completed its physical retune. Appendix 3C provides additional information.
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    Prip? Any real-world feedback from HoFo members?

    Has anyone here tried Prip yet?

    http://prip.me/blog/2013/07/15/the-road-to-prip/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDC_01 View Post
    Has anyone here tried Prip yet?

    http://prip.me/blog/2013/07/15/the-road-to-prip/
    http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....825&highlight=

    7.99 a month and the first month free. You can still can contact your nextel contacts in latin america. Cheaper then International direct connect on Sprint. Can be used on any provider with data and or on wifi.

    I guess NII decided to launch its own product and tell Sprint where to go eh.

    I might look into this

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