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    T-Mobile PAYG questions

    My parents spend half the year in Florida and the other half in Ontario, Canada. They use their cell phones very rarely, and will not use data at all. Average about 60 minutes/month between 2 phones.

    Our thoughts are they will get the T-Mobile PAYG Sim card, a Petro-Canada Mobility SIM card (runs on the Rogers network) and swap them out depending where they are. $100 for each provider will give a 1 year expiry for both providers. An LG Xenon seems to be a decent compromise in quality and price for what they plan to do with their phones.

    So here come the questions:

    1. Any reason an unlocked LG Xenon wouldn't work with the T-Mobile network? Would it be as simple as inserting the SIM card or is there much setup required? Would T-Mobile help with the setup?
    2. Without data, is there any reason they can't use a WiFi hotspot to browse? This would be helpful when they are travelling without a laptop.
    3. The Xenon is a 3G phone - it should use the 3G frequencies when available in both Canada and the USA, right? Where they live currently in Canada only has 3G service.

    Please feel free to make other suggestions. Thanks!!

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    1. It will work on 2g frequency only (3g frequency for T-Mobile is AWS). The LG needs to be unlocked. T-Mobile will tell you to bite it for support.

    2. WiFi is WiFi, shouldn't matter whether or not you have data.

    3. See answer to 1.

    Also make sure to assess how much they do use the phone (when they use it). I recently changed my T-Mobile paygo from by the minute to $2/day (for unlimited talk, text, 2g web). Look at it this way, if they use the phone for less than 20 minutes per day, and don't text or web, by the minute is better, otherwise, $2/day would be best for them. The reasoning should be self-explanatory.

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    2. Are you referring to the Xenon, because that doesn't have wifi? But you can definitely use any wifi capable phone/tablet at free wifi hotspots like Coffee Shops (ie Starbucks), etc.

    3.You won't get T-Mobile 3G with the LG Xenon, it has 850 and 1900 UMTS bands and not the AWS (1700/2100) bands needed for T-Mobile. (If your from Canada, you'll know WIND and Mobilicity use the AWS bands) However you don't need 3G if your not going to be using data, 2G voice on T-Mobile works fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentjudge View Post
    2. Are you referring to the Xenon, because that doesn't have wifi? But you can definitely use any wifi capable phone/tablet at free wifi hotspots like Coffee Shops (ie Starbucks), etc.
    Dwah! Thanks for pointing that out. My parents are looking for cheap phones but would like to use WiFi on rare occasions. It looks like some old info (pre-release?) said the Xenon has WiFi but that was not the case. Guess we're looking for a different phone for them.

    Thanks again, and to you as well simho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oryw View Post
    My parents spend half the year in Florida and the other half in Ontario, Canada. They use their cell phones very rarely, and will not use data at all. Average about 60 minutes/month between 2 phones.

    Our thoughts are they will get the T-Mobile PAYG Sim card, a Petro-Canada Mobility SIM card (runs on the Rogers network) and swap them out depending where they are. $100 for each provider will give a 1 year expiry for both providers. An LG Xenon seems to be a decent compromise in quality and price for what they plan to do with their phones.

    So here come the questions:

    1. Any reason an unlocked LG Xenon wouldn't work with the T-Mobile network? Would it be as simple as inserting the SIM card or is there much setup required? Would T-Mobile help with the setup?
    2. Without data, is there any reason they can't use a WiFi hotspot to browse? This would be helpful when they are travelling without a laptop.
    3. The Xenon is a 3G phone - it should use the 3G frequencies when available in both Canada and the USA, right? Where they live currently in Canada only has 3G service.

    Please feel free to make other suggestions. Thanks!!
    What you plan is about right. Keep in mind as far as "3G" T-Mobile uses different 3G frequencies (1700/2100) vs Rogers (850/1900/2100) for 3G, but for 2G service in the states you'd be fine with the setup you are contemplating. If you put $100 in immediately you'll get the 365 day renewal with as little as $10 to renew for each next 365 days on T-Mobile. You can purchase extra top up cards or buy a PIN from places such as callingmart.com. Just remember for T-Mobile prepaid you'll need to get a "kit" that has both the SIM and an activation code. The SIM alone is not enough to initiate prepaid service on T-Mobile prepaid.
    Moderator yahoogroups forum T-Mobile-US http://groups.yahoo.com/group/T-Mobile-US

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    T-Mobile roamed on Rogers (and Fido) on my past trips to Montreal, this was on the 2G side, last trip was October 2008. Is 2G coverage still available up there?

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