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    Why I'm Returning The Droid.

    Please feel free to chime in. And don't take any of this personally. No personal attacks here. Just let me know what you think:

    1) I actually think Im gonna return it and get a blackberry. Its really cool, and does so many things (and does them well) but Im afraid to use any of the cool features because the battery drains so damn quickly that Im afraid Ill be left without a phone. It also charges very slowly (especially through the computer USB - if it charges at all).

    1a) The length of time it takes to make a phone call. Going into the contacts list and finding the person seems rather antiquated next to blackberrys "just type the name" concept. I know you can use the google search box, but this requires three taps (of which you always mistap at least twice due to the sensitivity) then the virtual keyboard search, then tap the name. You know what happens next, right? You get a list of everything and inevitably accidentally tap the wrong one and now you find yourself being brought to the Sears web site instead of your friend Sean's contact info.

    2) I hate that I get two notifications for each email (one from a gmail app I can't remove and one from the native email app I can't remove).

    3) I also hate that you can't easily unlock the screen. Your finger has to go all the way to the top to hit the power button and then do the slide thing (even when a call comes in!!).

    4) And getting around seems to be really annoying. I had slacker radio running (which is awesome on the Droid btw) and had to turn it off. Well, first off, there is no off! You just keep opening apps until all the ram is gone and the phone lags. But to at least pause the music, you have to hit the power button, drag finger across to unlock, narrowly tap and drag the notification bar (which is the suggested quicker route no less!), tap on the icon and then pause the song. Seems like a lot of work to pause a song. On my blackberry it was */Green to unlock, then pause.

    5) Its a GOOGLE phone, which comes with a native GMAIL app, and doesn't have push gmail?!?!? Blackberry does, but Google doesn't? Seriously? I bought it on the basic assumption that it would, without even a doubt, come with push gmail. Nope.

    6) No copy and paste on email and txt. Welcome to 2003.

    7) Did I mention the battery dies in about 10 minutes? (OK, Im exaggerating, but it feels like that).

    8) The key board isn't terrible, and Im sure I can get used to it better, but man is it a *****. And the virtual one is simply annoying.

    9) Web browser is simply awesome! Completely! But I have a netbook and it still has no flash, so how much better is it really then any blackberry browser?

    10) Its so sensitive that you can hardly slide the thing without touching one of the buttons. Annoying.

    11) Its awesome that the cam is 5 mgpxl. But the quality blows at best, and really, who cares about a camera? Its nice, but a 3 mgpxl will do just fine for me to take pics of freaks on the subway.

    12) I have never once felt the phone vibrate. Its been on vibrate all day, and Ive gotten emails, txts and calls. Not once. My BB I'd feel it about 75% of the time.

    13) And this Im saving for last because its the least of the issues and would never have even mentioned it but for making a list - Its ugly as sin and weighs like a brick. Far too much weight for the lack of battery life.

    14) oh and VZW won't allow tethering for the Droid. Can't figure out why, but actually kinda need to a tether capable phone.

    Anyway, going for the Tour since I loved my Bold. Just my two cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reykjavik
    Please feel free to chime in. And don't take any of this personally. No personal attacks here. Just let me know what you think:

    1) I actually think Im gonna return it and get a blackberry. Its really cool, and does so many things (and does them well) but Im afraid to use any of the cool features because the battery drains so damn quickly that Im afraid Ill be left without a phone. It also charges very slowly (especially through the computer USB - if it charges at all).

    1a) The length of time it takes to make a phone call. Going into the contacts list and finding the person seems rather antiquated next to blackberrys "just type the name" concept. I know you can use the google search box, but this requires three taps (of which you always mistap at least twice due to the sensitivity) then the virtual keyboard search, then tap the name. You know what happens next, right? You get a list of everything and inevitably accidentally tap the wrong one and now you find yourself being brought to the Sears web site instead of your friend Sean's contact info.

    2) I hate that I get two notifications for each email (one from a gmail app I can't remove and one from the native email app I can't remove).

    3) I also hate that you can't easily unlock the screen. Your finger has to go all the way to the top to hit the power button and then do the slide thing (even when a call comes in!!).

    4) And getting around seems to be really annoying. I had slacker radio running (which is awesome on the Droid btw) and had to turn it off. Well, first off, there is no off! You just keep opening apps until all the ram is gone and the phone lags. But to at least pause the music, you have to hit the power button, drag finger across to unlock, narrowly tap and drag the notification bar (which is the suggested quicker route no less!), tap on the icon and then pause the song. Seems like a lot of work to pause a song. On my blackberry it was */Green to unlock, then pause.

    5) Its a GOOGLE phone, which comes with a native GMAIL app, and doesn't have push gmail?!?!? Blackberry does, but Google doesn't? Seriously? I bought it on the basic assumption that it would, without even a doubt, come with push gmail. Nope.

    6) No copy and paste on email and txt. Welcome to 2003.

    7) Did I mention the battery dies in about 10 minutes? (OK, Im exaggerating, but it feels like that).

    8) The key board isn't terrible, and Im sure I can get used to it better, but man is it a *****. And the virtual one is simply annoying.

    9) Web browser is simply awesome! Completely! But I have a netbook and it still has no flash, so how much better is it really then any blackberry browser?

    10) Its so sensitive that you can hardly slide the thing without touching one of the buttons. Annoying.

    11) Its awesome that the cam is 5 mgpxl. But the quality blows at best, and really, who cares about a camera? Its nice, but a 3 mgpxl will do just fine for me to take pics of freaks on the subway.

    12) I have never once felt the phone vibrate. Its been on vibrate all day, and Ive gotten emails, txts and calls. Not once. My BB I'd feel it about 75% of the time.

    13) And this Im saving for last because its the least of the issues and would never have even mentioned it but for making a list - Its ugly as sin and weighs like a brick. Far too much weight for the lack of battery life.

    14) oh and VZW won't allow tethering for the Droid. Can't figure out why, but actually kinda need to a tether capable phone.

    Anyway, going for the Tour since I loved my Bold. Just my two cents.
    Huh? Are you kidding the Blackberry browser is horrendous at best. Definitely THE worst feature of any Blackberry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reykjavik
    but Im afraid to use any of the cool features because the battery drains so damn quickly that Im afraid Ill be left without a phone.
    A valid concern but I can say that the battery life has been fine for me so far for just about everything except Google Maps. I don't plan to use Navigation unless I'm stuck and if I'm in a car I can plug it in while using it.

    1a) The length of time it takes to make a phone call. Going into the contacts list and finding the person seems rather antiquated next to blackberrys "just type the name" concept.
    I hold the search button (lower right) and say, "Call Bob Smith on Mobile" and it calls Bob Smith on his mobile or I get a list asking which one I meant and it's always in there. Two clicks at most and one of them blind.

    2) I hate that I get two notifications for each email (one from a gmail app I can't remove and one from the native email app I can't remove).
    I don't get that. What native e-mail app? My e-mail is via gmail. I get one notification and that's it. Must be a setting somewhere.

    3) I also hate that you can't easily unlock the screen. Your finger has to go all the way to the top to hit the power button and then do the slide thing (even when a call comes in!!).
    Another one I'm not following. My phone is asleep. I just called it. The screen jumps to live, I swipe the lock and click Answer.

    On my blackberry it was */Green to unlock, then pause.
    This is beginning to sound like a rather common situation of a user being used to one paradigm and expecting similarity in the other. Failing that the latter is getting negative acceptance for not being paradigm A. I find when this happens that either such people need to be forced from their initial paradigm (there are not more options there, say Blackberry goes under) or you're best to just stick with what you know. It sounds like what you want is a next generation Blackberry, not something entirely different.

    5) Its a GOOGLE phone, which comes with a native GMAIL app, and doesn't have push gmail?!?!? Blackberry does, but Google doesn't? Seriously? I bought it on the basic assumption that it would, without even a doubt, come with push gmail. Nope.
    You were just complaining about battery. This is one of those areas. Regardless my tests show it's working exactly like that. This URL suggests it's been that way all along as far as Droid is concerned:

    http://www.google.com/mobile/android/mail/

    6) No copy and paste on email and txt. Welcome to 2003.
    No complaint there. They need the selector from the iPhone to work across apps.

    8) The key board isn't terrible, and Im sure I can get used to it better, but man is it a *****. And the virtual one is simply annoying.
    Having not used a virtual keyboard I'm VERY surprised at how easily it works for me. I'm also looking forward to when I can get TouchPal to make it better. My biggest gripe with the phone is the keyboard. It's just terrible. Keys that run together, so soft I don't feel I'm pushing keys, not aligned like a keyboard, reaching the top row is difficult and I have smaller fingers, the lack of dedicated number keys.... If the Eris was 2.0 I think I'd consider going that way instead. Having a keyboard is great for me but having one that doesn't work well is just a waste. However, as a primary account user I can wait a year to see what else comes out and by then I'll be an Android power user.

    9) Web browser is simply awesome! Completely! But I have a netbook and it still has no flash, so how much better is it really then any blackberry browser?
    It's easily the best phone browser I've seen. Fast, and I can go to full sites much of the time. BB browsers are terrible by comparison. Flash will be here shortly. It's already well along.

    10) Its so sensitive that you can hardly slide the thing without touching one of the buttons. Annoying.
    Ah the trade-off with the heat-based approach. I find it's only an issue when I setting it down and then I don't care.

    11) Its awesome that the cam is 5 mgpxl. But the quality blows at best, and really, who cares about a camera? Its nice, but a 3 mgpxl will do just fine for me to take pics of freaks on the subway.
    They need a patch and the camera needs to be at the top of the list. The focus issue is big. I don't even use a phone's camera. I don't get those who bother frankly but that's okay. I use this one now for the barcode benefits. I've used this already to save money and getting it to focus right is often a pain.

    12) I have never once felt the phone vibrate. Its been on vibrate all day, and Ive gotten emails, txts and calls. Not once. My BB I'd feel it about 75% of the time.
    Sounds like a setting again. Mine vibrates all the time.

    13) And this Im saving for last because its the least of the issues and would never have even mentioned it but for making a list - Its ugly as sin and weighs like a brick. Far too much weight for the lack of battery life.
    To each his own. I too find it less than appealing aesthetically but find review after review of people saying they love the look. Again, my big issue is it was worth the weight for the keyboard but now not worth it with such a lousy keyboard.

    14) oh and VZW won't allow tethering for the Droid. Can't figure out why, but actually kinda need to a tether capable phone.
    That's either here already or will be shortly. Verizon has already mentioned this. It will cost more though.

    Anyway, going for the Tour since I loved my Bold. Just my two cents.
    I suspect that will make you much happier.

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    You need to turn off the power suckers when not in use. Wi Fi- GPS and turn the screen down to %20 brightness usually helps a lot. When I first got my G1 I was not happy with the battery. Now - after the updates it lasts all day with heavy use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reykjavik
    6) No copy and paste on email and txt. Welcome to 2003.
    hold the shift key down and drag your finger across the text you want to copy. Works in email, texts and most html.

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    If you use droid like a phone (i.e. making/receiving calls and leaving it alone otherwise) it will last a long time.
    If you use it like a laptop it will last 7 hours.
    Pick your sweet spot somewhere in between.

    This is true for any smartphone - iPhone, Storm, Droid or any other.

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    Only two things I can agree with and that's the vibrate is weak but understandable since it's technically half as thick as my 8830. Plus the camera does stink. I was looking forward to taking photos since I've went 2 years on my 8830 with out a camera and there was many time I wish it had one.

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    The email issue you're having is that you applied email information to the Email app as well as to the Gmail app. You will want to remove the email address information in the email app and leave it in the Gmail section. The secondary Email app is for pop,imap and whatnot of anything but gmail. The reason you are getting 2 nitifications is because you applied information to both. I accidentally did the same thing and simply went in and deleted the account for the generic email app and left my info applied to the gmail app. Best of luck but it does sound like you're making justifications to return to Blackberry. As mentioned above, if it's something you're more comfortable with, there's no reason not to. Justification not needed. However, I do hope that perhaps you'll give it a chance and learn to use the droid to it's fullest. Either way, good luck.

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    I haven't had great luck with battery life until last night it seems. My battery had been draining in 6 hours or so under light use. Last night I charged it and used the phone as a GPS for a 45 minute trip up and back. I also checked email and used the phone to surf the web while I was out. After the trip home the battery had only drained 10%. I think that is simply amazing! Maybe I had to cycle the battery 3 or 4 times before the life really kicked in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reykjavik
    1) I actually think Im gonna return it and get a blackberry. Its really cool, and does so many things (and does them well) but Im afraid to use any of the cool features because the battery drains so damn quickly that Im afraid Ill be left without a phone. It also charges very slowly (especially through the computer USB - if it charges at all).
    This is odd. My experience with USB charging is that it's very fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by reykjavik
    2) I hate that I get two notifications for each email (one from a gmail app I can't remove and one from the native email app I can't remove).
    Uh, only set up gmail in one of the apps. Don't use the email app for gmail, or if you do, then disable the gmail app.

    Quote Originally Posted by reykjavik
    3) I also hate that you can't easily unlock the screen. Your finger has to go all the way to the top to hit the power button and then do the slide thing (even when a call comes in!!).
    I actually like the slide thing, and I have never had to unlock when a call comes in (just slide left or right for answer/ignore). Are you sure the unlock pattern is the behavior you see? Maybe it's a setting somewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by reykjavik
    4) And getting around seems to be really annoying. I had slacker radio running (which is awesome on the Droid btw) and had to turn it off. Well, first off, there is no off! You just keep opening apps until all the ram is gone and the phone lags.
    Go into the slacker app, hit pause, go to home screen. This essentially suspends the app and it will use no battery.

    Quote Originally Posted by reykjavik
    But to at least pause the music, you have to hit the power button, drag finger across to unlock, narrowly tap and drag the notification bar (which is the suggested quicker route no less!), tap on the icon and then pause the song. Seems like a lot of work to pause a song. On my blackberry it was */Green to unlock, then pause.
    I can't argue this -- it is annoying. I suspect we'll see marketplace apps to solve this problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by reykjavik
    5) Its a GOOGLE phone, which comes with a native GMAIL app, and doesn't have push gmail?!?!?
    What on earth are you talking about. The gmail app is using a push protocol. Try emailing yourself and check out how fast the notification comes through. If you connect to gmail through the Email app, then yes, it does not have "push" unless you connect to gmail as if it was Exchange. The default in the email app is to use IMAP. Once again: don't use the email app for gmail. It doesn't have the starring/archiving controls anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by reykjavik
    8) The key board isn't terrible, and Im sure I can get used to it better, but man is it a *****.
    There's no comparison between the Tour keyboard and this keyboard. The Tour is awesome. I've said before, if Exchange and keyboard are what someone cares about, then Tour is a no-brainer.

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    Are you sure you were using a Motorola Droid?

    1) I actually think Im gonna return it and get a blackberry. Its really cool, and does so many things (and does them well) but Im afraid to use any of the cool features because the battery drains so damn quickly that Im afraid Ill be left without a phone. It also charges very slowly (especially through the computer USB - if it charges at all). No charging problems on my end. Thing charges fast and efficiently.

    2) I hate that I get two notifications for each email (one from a gmail app I can't remove and one from the native email app I can't remove). Like others have said, use the Gmail app for Gmail only and the e-mail app only for all others emails.

    3) I also hate that you can't easily unlock the screen. Your finger has to go all the way to the top to hit the power button and then do the slide thing (even when a call comes in!!). You don't have to do the "slide thing" to unlock if you don't want. This is an option. Sliding to answer a call is no harder than pressing a button.

    4) And getting around seems to be really annoying. I had slacker radio running (which is awesome on the Droid btw) and had to turn it off. Well, first off, there is no off! You just keep opening apps until all the ram is gone and the phone lags. But to at least pause the music, you have to hit the power button, drag finger across to unlock, narrowly tap and drag the notification bar (which is the suggested quicker route no less!), tap on the icon and then pause the song. Seems like a lot of work to pause a song. On my blackberry it was */Green to unlock, then pause. You can turn Slacker off, you simply hit the menu key and hit 'exit'. Boom, Done.

    5) Its a GOOGLE phone, which comes with a native GMAIL app, and doesn't have push gmail?!?!? Blackberry does, but Google doesn't? Seriously? I bought it on the basic assumption that it would, without even a doubt, come with push gmail. Nope. ???? Gmail absolutely does push and the other e-mail app "basically" does push. Set it to scan every five minutes and you have two push apps.

    6) No copy and paste on email and txt. Welcome to 2003. Hold shift and touch screen...

    7) Did I mention the battery dies in about 10 minutes? (OK, Im exaggerating, but it feels like that). My battery lasts all day with a lot of use.

    9) Web browser is simply awesome! Completely! But I have a netbook and it still has no flash, so how much better is it really then any blackberry browser? Flash 10 compatible, and plays youTube out of the box.

    10) Its so sensitive that you can hardly slide the thing without touching one of the buttons. Annoying. How are you sliding it? You push it from the side and up, no way to touch the buttons.

    11) Its awesome that the cam is 5 mgpxl. But the quality blows at best, and really, who cares about a camera? Its nice, but a 3 mgpxl will do just fine for me to take pics of freaks on the subway. The camera does leave a lot to be desired.

    12) I have never once felt the phone vibrate. Its been on vibrate all day, and Ive gotten emails, txts and calls. Not once. My BB I'd feel it about 75% of the time. Vibrates all the time for me.

    13) And this Im saving for last because its the least of the issues and would never have even mentioned it but for making a list - Its ugly as sin and weighs like a brick. Far too much weight for the lack of battery life. That's of preference...but it's hefty because it's made out of glass and metal, not cheap plastic.

    14) oh and VZW won't allow tethering for the Droid. Can't figure out why, but actually kinda need to a tether capable phone. There are ways around that...othewise you can wait until VZW releases their tether package early next year.
    You rush everything; you then are really rushing nothing...

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    I don't agree with the thread starter, droid seems to be working fine for a friend of my, I'm actually impressed with its battery life. By the way your rant seems to be for new owner of droids.

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    Actually, if you want to speed up the camera, turn down the megapixels to 2mp...this will speed up the camera incredibly until there is an official update.

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    My Droid works and works well, *iDon't drop calls anymore*. Android will quickly become the go to OS. Symbian and WinMo is dead. That leaves the Blackberry or the iphone... Blackberry browser stinks and it is too corporate... I will keep my Droid.. I love it. Android 2.1 will be out soon!

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    I'm very much sold on Android as a platform now. I think this is a good phone to take in all that though I very much look forward to Verizon's next Android 2.0 phones. I think next I'll go for something without a real keyboard (I'm amazingly taking to the virtual one in ways I would have thought impossible before) and I think much will be improved in the coming year. If the Eris had 2.0 I might have gone that way.

    My next big thing will be to see if someone puts out a battery greater than 1400 mAh.

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