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Thread: DMTS goes GSM: wth is this?

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    It is Bell who is doing an HSDPA overlay. Bell has requested a 30mb link to the TBaytel sites on the Hwy 17 corridor to accommodate this update.

    Those of us who are still employable in the industry sit back and laugh at the old timers like yourself. I've taken the time to look up the definition of consultant for you...

    con·sul·tant -
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    1. someone who use to be relevant in their field
    2. one who is able to convince naive companies they are in the know

    You have been pwn3d grandpa.
    Last edited by piperzoe; 01-13-2011 at 11:20 PM.
    Knowledge is power.

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    As a person who works in the industry, You should know its very unprofessional and inappropriate to mention someone's name in a public forum like this. I'm pretty sure the person mentioned would not like to be made aware of his name being dragged around in a mess of conversations like this.
    I'll also be reporting this to the admins of this site as inappropriate content and ask that they lock this thread. I've been following this one for awhile and have to say its pretty sad the way you people have carried on in slandering each other .

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    Your first post is to chastise people, then you have the gull to tell us we shouldn't be carrying on this way and "slandering each other". I think the term you are looking for is "libel." Slander is spoken word, libel is written word.

    This "consultant" claims to be in the know. I merely mentioned he should contact the source and get his facts straight. This information is out there and can be attained by doing a google search of the phrase "tbaytel wireless engineering."

    http://www.google.ca/search?q=tbayte...ient=firefox-a

    The "consultant" claims to have talked to TBaytel and DMTS engineering departments and seen their plans. I merely called his bluff.

    If you're offended by the dissemination of information, then simply direct your browser to another location.

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    Personally ... I don't care about half of this bickering.

    1. Its good to see that the area between Manitoba and Sault Ste. Marie will eventually get GSM based technology, and out of AMPS/1x.

    2. I could care less if I'm roaming on DMTS, TBayTel, Rogers or Bell/Telus.

    TBayTel and others will eventually have to wake up and realize than 1x/EVDO will be soon replaced. HSPA/LTE are the ways of the future, and with 89% of the global mobile world using it, DTMS (or any other carrier on GSM) has a LOT of international roaming revenue that it can obtain... and I don't mean AT&T/T-Mobile.

    http://www.3gamericas.org/index.cfm?...age&pageid=565

    More locally relevant: Western Hemisphere
    http://www.3gamericas.org/index.cfm?...age&pageid=568
    AT&T... your world, throttled.

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    Does anyone have any insight as to wether or not DMTS will be setting up corridor service between their town-served areas?
    Cheeri'o...
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    Please Note: I do not work for Bell. I also do not work for any wireless retail outlet.
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    According to their site, they 'should' be setting up service, but it looks a little stretched in some areas. Lets hope they picked their locations well.

    http://www.drytel.ca/wp-content/uplo...ge-q2-2009.jpg
    http://www.drytel.ca/wp-content/uplo...ge-q3-2009.jpg
    http://www.drytel.ca/wp-content/uplo...ge-q4-2009.jpg

    Steve Nikkel has a couple of Dryden sites listed on his Google maps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by formercanuck
    According to their site, they 'should' be setting up service, but it looks a little stretched in some areas. Lets hope they picked their locations well.

    http://www.drytel.ca/wp-content/uplo...ge-q2-2009.jpg
    http://www.drytel.ca/wp-content/uplo...ge-q3-2009.jpg
    http://www.drytel.ca/wp-content/uplo...ge-q4-2009.jpg

    Steve Nikkel has a couple of Dryden sites listed on his Google maps.
    Dryden didn't pick any locations at all, they are going on existing Bell and Thunder Bay mobility towers according to piperzoedontno. The only sites they own are in Wabigoon, Dryden and Oxdrift. These are existing CDMA sites they are putting GSM on (they are already indicated on the map).

    According to posts earlier in the thread from piperzoe and Deckster, Dryden is installing omni sites rather than dual, tri or quad antennas. So there's no way their coverage will be as good.

    There are more rumblings out of the Bell/Telus alliance that their HSPA network will be ready to go in time for the Winter Olympics.

    Things are going to get real interesting in the next 12-18 months with the Bell/Telus roll out and the entry of all the new players into the cellular marketplace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piperzoe
    Must be some magic type of antenna they are using... but wait aren't the putting up Omni sites like this?
    http://www.ams-tech.com/data/images/omnimain.jpg

    Omni sites are single antenna sites used mostly to cover small areas with few customers. The signal radiates out in a circular pattern no more than a couple of KM from the site. The capacity for voice and data is severely limited on a single antenna site.

    Conversely, TBayTel uses tri sector sites in urban areas and dual sector sites for rural/highway coverage. The dual and tri sites not only offer superior coverage, but also add a far greater capacity than what can be achieved using a single antenna site. More bandwidth for calls and data. The signal from dual sites on 150-200' towers can travel upwards of 25KM.

    Tri sector cell site...
    http://www.bryony.net/images/basest2.jpg
    I'd only believe that DMTS would put up an omni site when I see it (any pictures?). While that link posted is an 'omni site', the panel does not look like an omni, but a standard directional... just covering 1 direction, sort of like this one

    http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...05-odyssey.JPG

    Here's a nice Omni antenna.
    http://cell-phone-accessories-wholes...D&ProdID=18637

    And a more typical (AT&T uses a lot of Powerwave here)
    http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...y-closeup3.JPG
    http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...oa-closeup.JPG

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    At the end of the day, be glad you're not on Rogers roaming into DMTS... they're roaming agreement will rip every rogers phone user a new one every time they hop on the DMTS network... Have fun!

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    Think of it this way...
    There are NO GSM carriers in Northwestern Ontario from Kenora to Timmins to Sault Ste. Marie.
    At some point, TBayTel (or other) will put HSPA in those areas (outside of Thunder Bay, I don't expect it any time soon).
    Until then any GSM carrier that I can USE is welcomed.

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    Any updates as to the status of their current build?

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    <bump> ... likewise, any updates? I'd be curious to know...

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    Huge news this week... Bell & Telus are launching an HSDPA network in November. Bell has arranged to place their gear on TBayTel's towers on the Highway 17 corridor in NWO. How long before Rogers cuts a deal to use this network over DMTS' Edge network?

    Bye Bye Rogers roamers.

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    Interesting.

    According to formercanuck's post, there should be corridor service by now. As it's the last quarter of 09. However, if you want an accurate coverage map. Refer to the Q2 map as that's all I got.

    I haven't travelled the entire area, just a couple hundred kilometres and I was disappointed. Maybe they just started Q2'09.

    What's more; caller id - fail, internet - fail. On the upside, call quality was clear and text messages were instant.

    Seems they are not putting a lot of sectors up, got excellent reception one side of the tower, moved to the other side and drove down the highway and not even half a km away it dropped right off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_north
    Seems they are not putting a lot of sectors up, got excellent reception one side of the tower, moved to the other side and drove down the highway and not even half a km away it dropped right off.
    One of the earlier posts mentioned omni sites, but from what you are describing I'd say they are building single sector sites. Why would any company do that? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

    It's starting to look like they don't have the capital to pull this off.

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