• Boost to Start Activating All Compatible Phones with Rainbow SIM

    Saw this on BestMVNO today:

    BestMVNO has learned that Boost stores will soon begin activating all Boost 5G Network-capable phones with Rainbow SIMs. This applies to all markets, even those where the Boost 5G network hasn't been built or activated yet.

    Rainbow SIMs enable phones with the appropriate radio bands in them to connect to the Boost 5G Network currently being developed by DISH/Echostar. In areas where there is no Boost 5G Network, customers can expect their phones to roam on AT&T or T-Mobile.

    DISH/Echostar might be accelerating Rainbow SIM activations to reduce costs by transferring customers to their network as soon as it's available, instead of paying for network access from T-Mobile or AT&T.
    Full article in link above.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Boost to Start Activating All Compatible Phones with Rainbow SIM started by frail View original post
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    1. Orlimar1's Avatar
      Orlimar1 -
      Id suggest people that qualify just sign up through Project Genesis. Unlimited data with unlimited hotspot usage.
    1. frail's Avatar
      frail -
      Quote Originally Posted by Orlimar1 View Post
      I’d suggest people that qualify just sign up through Project Genesis. Unlimited data with unlimited hotspot usage.
      If they supported compatible BYODs, I'd do it.
    1. PaulCrawhorne's Avatar
      PaulCrawhorne -
      limited addresses

      How to get around this?

      Expensive phone - what is their unlock policy?

      Especially since they are likely to be folding or getting acquired...

      What is the advantage of going this PG route over what is now on offer in this announcement ?
    1. EtherealRemnant's Avatar
      EtherealRemnant -
      Quote Originally Posted by PaulCrawhorne View Post
      limited addresses

      How to get around this?

      Expensive phone - what is their unlock policy?

      Especially since they are likely to be folding or getting acquired...

      What is the advantage of going this PG route over what is now on offer in this announcement ?
      The PG service currently has totally unlimited data, even when roaming. Boost Mobile, even on their own native network, is enforcing data limits. Last I heard they were experimenting with limits around 70GB. Also, PG has a dedicated AT&T SIM for calling so you don't have to deal with the VoNR instability so many are dealing with.

      One year for unlocking though and the service will very likely be folded in to Boost Mobile soon anyway as all that limitless roaming isn't helping their financial situation for sure.
    1. frail's Avatar
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    1. robbyrobby's Avatar
      robbyrobby -
      my understating is the all compatible devices on new accounts to use Rainbow SIM is correct

      BUT only for activations in Boost Mobile dealer locations on the $ 40, 50 or $ 60 month plans or added lines to those plans

      so far no self service activation or online activation go on Rainbow SIM's, my understanding is that will not be changing any time soon

      officially the Rainbow SIM are only supposed to work in certain devices but once activated they will work fine in other Android devices but may need manual APN settings. for voice functionality the device will need VoNR capability but data works on nearly anything.
    1. EtherealRemnant's Avatar
      EtherealRemnant -
      Quote Originally Posted by robbyrobby View Post
      my understating is the all compatible devices on new accounts to use Rainbow SIM is correct

      BUT only for activations in Boost Mobile dealer locations on the $ 40, 50 or $ 60 month plans or added lines to those plans

      so far no self service activation or online activation go on Rainbow SIM's, my understanding is that will not be changing any time soon

      officially the Rainbow SIM are only supposed to work in certain devices but once activated they will work fine in other Android devices but may need manual APN settings. for voice functionality the device will need VoNR capability but data works on nearly anything.
      It is false that they're not activating rainbow SIMs when ordering online as people have reported exactly that, especially with iPhones, but also when ordering compatible phones from Boost.
    1. robbyrobby's Avatar
      robbyrobby -
      Quote Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant View Post
      It is false that they're not activating rainbow SIMs when ordering online as people have reported exactly that, especially with iPhones, but also when ordering compatible phones from Boost.
      are these reports about prepaid boost mobile or Boost Infinite ?

      i have seen many training documents explicitly saying Rainbow SIMs are only compatible with the in store rate plans

      i do know that iPhone 15's on Infinite are in some cases being shipped with Rainbow eSIMs and perhaps some other devices as well.

      the easiest way to get a Rainbow SIM(and only way to know for sure thats what you are getting) is with prepaid in Boost Mobile dealer location

      to order online would be either from Project Genesis or Boost Infinite but you can not be sure exactly what you will be getting before making the purchase

      one other things is that there is LOTS of confusion, i have talked to quite a few people excited about their 'smart network switching' on the boost network and it turns out they are actually on a ATT or T-Mobile MVNO SIM account. most of these are people on Infinite but some on prepaid as well.
    1. frail's Avatar
      frail -
      I activated a Boost Mobile line on my iPhone 15 Pro online on the $40 plan ($20 for the first month) plan and got a 89012 (T-Mobile) eSIM. That's unfortunate because T-Mobile's network doesn't work well for me. Project Genesis is available in my area and the FCC maps show Dish's network has coverage; I guess it's still going to be hit or miss for a while as to who gets a Rainbow SIM, or they're not ready to take it out of testing.

      Whatever the case, I don't want to try it badly enough to go to a Boost store, so that's that...
    1. robbyrobby's Avatar
      robbyrobby -
      Quote Originally Posted by frail View Post
      I activated a Boost Mobile line on my iPhone 15 Pro online on the $40 plan ($20 for the first month) plan and got a 89012 (T-Mobile) eSIM. That's unfortunate because T-Mobile's network doesn't work well for me. Project Genesis is available in my area and the FCC maps show Dish's network has coverage; I guess it's still going to be hit or miss for a while as to who gets a Rainbow SIM, or they're not ready to take it out of testing.

      Whatever the case, I don't want to try it badly enough to go to a Boost store, so that's that...
      if you want a Rainbow SIM on you iPhone 15 you need to go into a Boost Mobile store to activate, let the rep in the store know you specifically want the Rainbow SIM. For the option to appear the billing zip code you provide may need to be in a covered area and if you are porting a number that number also may need to be from inside a covered area.

      you would need to get a new phone number, there is no option to move between networks at this time. there are some instances though where customers are being migrated on the back end. your iPhone 15 with an eSIM could be selected for that but my understand this would only happen if you are on an 'in store rate plan' to change to an in store plan you would need to go into a dealer and have one of the reps change the plan through there system. the in store $ 40 month plan is not unlimited like the online version but a hard capped 15GB plan, however right now the data counter on Rainbow SIM accounts is not working and it seems everyone is getting unlimited(including hotspot) regardless of plan, this includes off net roaming as well. YMMV

      there are currently 2 separate and different sets of rate plans at Boost mobile. Plans that are sold in store most of which include taxes and plans activated online, through the Boost One app or by calling customer or dealer support. the latter plans have taxes added on.

      Rainbow SIM are only possible right now on the 40, 50 and 60 in store plans including taxes and also on a promotional 4for100 that requires all 4 devices to be brand new Rainbow SIM capable devices and bans certain devices including iPhone 15, Moto EDGE + and Moto RAZR. Basically none of the higher end devices are allowed onto the 4for100 promo plan

      You may also be able to activate on postpaid 'Boost Infinite' although there is no way to determine in advance what type of SIM you will get.
    1. PaulCrawhorne's Avatar
      PaulCrawhorne -
      no wonder they're going bankrupt

      no way to run a railroad
    1. frail's Avatar
      frail -
      Boost Infinite is a dumpster fire. I tried them twice and never again.

      They need to take a page from RedPocket's book and give people the flexibility to choose and change the network they want.
    1. EtherealRemnant's Avatar
      EtherealRemnant -
      Quote Originally Posted by robbyrobby View Post
      are these reports about prepaid boost mobile or Boost Infinite ?

      i have seen many training documents explicitly saying Rainbow SIMs are only compatible with the in store rate plans

      i do know that iPhone 15's on Infinite are in some cases being shipped with Rainbow eSIMs and perhaps some other devices as well.

      the easiest way to get a Rainbow SIM(and only way to know for sure thats what you are getting) is with prepaid in Boost Mobile dealer location

      to order online would be either from Project Genesis or Boost Infinite but you can not be sure exactly what you will be getting before making the purchase

      one other things is that there is LOTS of confusion, i have talked to quite a few people excited about their 'smart network switching' on the boost network and it turns out they are actually on a ATT or T-Mobile MVNO SIM account. most of these are people on Infinite but some on prepaid as well.
      There are people who have said they got it with the $40 plan online and I believe it was the Samsung A23 they were ordering.

      There have been people on Boost Infinite who got sent a rainbow SIM and they couldn't activate it because it was supposed to be a regular SIM too.

      This company is a dumpster fire.

      EDIT: Lol that they were called a dumpster fire by two of us in a row (I hadn't read the rest of the thread yet)
    1. robbyrobby's Avatar
      robbyrobby -
      Quote Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant View Post
      There are people who have said they got it with the $40 plan online and I believe it was the Samsung A23 they were ordering.

      There have been people on Boost Infinite who got sent a rainbow SIM and they couldn't activate it because it was supposed to be a regular SIM too.

      This company is a dumpster fire.

      EDIT: Lol that they were called a dumpster fire by two of us in a row (I hadn't read the rest of the thread yet)
      interesting.

      there is currently a 'over the air' migration of customer from MVNO to Rainbow SIM's, i was under the impression they had to be on in store plans. initially it was only the a23 but now includes customers with Moto G 5G and Moto RAZR, no explanation has been given about why its certain Boost 5G compatible devices and not others.

      i have yet to see one of these migrations in my stores but I am assuming it is a hidden eSIM that is being activated in place of the physical SIM. dealers that have reported having migrated customer did say they received no new physical SIM cards in the mail or otherwise. to my knowledge a physical SIM cannot be converted from one carrier to another. i do know both G 5G and RAZR have eSIM capabilities even though not visible in the settings. i had not been aware of the a23 having eSIM but I imagine it may as well.

      it is certainly possibly that the information shared with dealer of online plans not being compatible with Rainbow SIM may not be correct. i do know for sure they are rejected if attempt used for a new BYOD activation online.
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