• New iPhone SE Announced



    Today, Apple announced the new iPhone SE:

    Cupertino, California — Apple today announced the second-generation iPhone SE, a powerful new iPhone featuring a 4.7-inch Retina HD display, paired with Touch ID for industry-leading security. iPhone SE comes in a compact design, reinvented from the inside out, and is the most affordable iPhone. The new iPhone SE is powered by the Apple-designed A13 Bionic, the fastest chip in a smartphone, to handle the most demanding tasks. iPhone SE also features the best single-camera system ever in an iPhone, which unlocks the benefits of computational photography including Portrait mode, and is designed to withstand the elements with dust and water resistance.
    iPhone SE comes in three beautiful colors — black, white and (PRODUCT)RED — and will be available for pre-order beginning Friday, April 17, starting at just $399 (US).
    Full announcement here: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/...opular-design/
    This article was originally published in forum thread: New iPhone SE Announced started by frail View original post
    Comments 33 Comments
    1. BrunoAra's Avatar
      BrunoAra -
      Pour one out for phones of a reasonable size...
    1. aaronwt's Avatar
      aaronwt -
      Reasonable size? It has a tiny 4.7" screen. Yet the actual phone size is only a little smaller than my Galaxy S10. Which has a 6.1" screen. That Apple phone is huge for the size of the screen it has.
    1. aaronwt's Avatar
      aaronwt -
      Quote Originally Posted by BrunoAra View Post
      Pour one out for phones of a reasonable size...
      The Apple phone is huge for the size screen it has. It's only a little smaller than my Galaxy S10 with a 6.1" screen.
    1. trek83's Avatar
      trek83 -
      Bezels on top & bottom are large , no doubt.
      Yet.....one does get accustom to any screen size.
      It’s price & features will appeal to those who want an inexpensive iPhone .
    1. @TheRealDanny's Avatar
      @TheRealDanny -
      Great price and decent specs.

      Not my cup of tea but it’ll still sell to those who want an apple device while price conscious.







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    1. Mr.Peppermint's Avatar
      Mr.Peppermint -
      Disapointed that the bezel is black on all colour models
      Obv like the dual SIM and A13 chip
    1. blacksurfer's Avatar
      blacksurfer -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Peppermint View Post
      Disapointed that the bezel is black on all colour models
      Obv like the dual SIM and A13 chip
      This may be the android killer, great for grandma, kids, and people who don’t want to spend a fortune on an iPhone. Also nice for those afraid of face unlock and prefer the finger print. Most people aren’t protesting the bezel. It’s popular and already selling out. Look for $99 prices on Black Friday if the covid is under control.


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    1. Serial Port's Avatar
      Serial Port -
      Quote Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post
      The Apple phone is huge for the size screen it has. It's only a little smaller than my Galaxy S10 with a 6.1" screen.
      The screen size is only .7 inches diagonally larger than the original iPhone SE. I wouldn't call it huge. You cannot compare to a modern Samsung Galaxy device. I use a Galaxy S9+ which is also much larger compared to the original SE and the new SE 2020. I would not consider the new model SE as huge.

      Excuse the pun, but don't compare Apples to Androids.
    1. southchatham's Avatar
      southchatham -
      Does anyone know if the bands are all the same between carrier models and the sim free version?
    1. loboheeler's Avatar
      loboheeler -
      Quote Originally Posted by veriztd View Post
      The screen size is only .7 inches diagonally larger than the original iPhone SE. I wouldn't call it huge.
      The size complaint is about the overall dimensions compared to screen size because of the large bezel area. The body is basically a 6/7/8 with upgraded internals. Less design cost for a budget model. They did the same thing making the original SE from the 5, with 6 internals.
    1. kevink1's Avatar
      kevink1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by southchatham View Post
      Does anyone know if the bands are all the same between carrier models and the sim free version?
      Based on the Apple site there is just one model for the US. I think it confusing that they duplicate the model in their table, one with (GSM) appended and one with (CDMA) appended but it is likely the same phone. I think it just means that, when a "CDMA" carrier's SIM in inserted and configured, it will also support CDMA bands/radio.
    1. newsnews's Avatar
      newsnews -
      I got this phone and am very happy with it. It's the perfect pocket size for me and is fast and up to date.
    1. Serial Port's Avatar
      Serial Port -
      Quote Originally Posted by kevink1 View Post
      when a "CDMA" carrier's SIM in inserted and configured, it will also support CDMA bands/radio.
      CDMA devices (used by Sprint or Verizon) don't need or require/use a SIM card, only LTE/VOLTE or GSM phones use a SIM card.
    1. kevink1's Avatar
      kevink1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by veriztd View Post
      CDMA devices (used by Sprint or Verizon) don't need or require/use a SIM card, only LTE/VOLTE or GSM phones use a SIM card.
      Didn't you see the quotes around CDMA? Verizon has used SIM cards for years. For LTE on their network, and some phones before then to support international use of the phone.

      GSM is also used as a catchall by many people for ATT and T-Mobile, even though ATT doesn't do GSM anymore, just UMTS (UTMS?), LTE, and 5G now.

      If I put in a Verizon SIM card into an existing phone like an iPhone 11, unless my account has been configured to be CDMA-less, it will support CDMA if I'm in an area without LTE support.
    1. kevink1's Avatar
      kevink1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by veriztd View Post
      CDMA devices (used by Sprint or Verizon) don't need or require/use a SIM card, only LTE/VOLTE or GSM phones use a SIM card.
      RedPocket, for example, calls their plans on the Verizon network CDMA. Will they change that name after the end of the year when Verizon turns off phone usage of CDMA? They call the ATT plans GSMA, even though ATT doesn't do GSM anymore.
    1. bmtvaquero's Avatar
      bmtvaquero -
      This iPhone SE is my first Apple product. It won't let me back up to iCloud because I don't have wifi. Am I missing something or is this the most stupid thing? Why can't I just use my cellular data to back up?
    1. kevink1's Avatar
      kevink1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by bmtvaquero View Post
      This iPhone SE is my first Apple product. It won't let me back up to iCloud because I don't have wifi. Am I missing something or is this the most stupid thing? Why can't I just use my cellular data to back up?
      Most likely it is due to the large potential size of the backup. I have 88GB of storage total in iCloud storage, though apparently only 1.6GB unique to my current phone.

      The flip side is someone with 2GB of high speed data, and maybe fees for extra storage. Trigger a backup, and the phone tries to backup 4GB. Either the data is gone, or you have overage fees.

      So backups are generally limited to when on power, and when on wi-fi.

      Now, if you had 2 iPhones you could probably take turns sharing hot spot between them, and blast through your data that way.

      My current plan only has 5GB of high speed data a month. I've historically used about 5GB/month. Sometimes more. I'll see how things go now that I'm back to going to work, and not home on wi-fi.
    1. bmtvaquero's Avatar
      bmtvaquero -
      It's a brand new phone. It's got a few photos and some contacts. It should at least allow me to override that feature, I understand it is just trying to help people save data. Is Apple so ignorant as to think everyone has home wifi?

      And, before someone suggests it. No, I will not go to McDonald's and sit in that greasy dining area just to back up my phone.

      Looks like I'm still in the Google universe for backups.
    1. october262's Avatar
      october262 -
      Quote Originally Posted by bmtvaquero View Post
      It's a brand new phone. It's got a few photos and some contacts. It should at least allow me to override that feature, I understand it is just trying to help people save data. Is Apple so ignorant as to think everyone has home wifi? And, before someone suggests it. No, I will not go to McDonald's and sit in that greasy dining area just to back up my phone. Looks like I'm still in the Google universe for backups.
      there's plenty of other places that have free WiFi, such as the Library, some grocery stores, brick & mortar stores like walmart Target etc.
    1. Serial Port's Avatar
      Serial Port -
      I frequently used to go to Barnes and Noble and used their free WiFi in the cafe. Read a magazine and have a cup of overpriced Starbucks coffee. As already mentioned, there are a lot of locations that offer free Wifi.
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