• Big Three Data Deals - Choose Wisely



    A helpful redditor over on r/Telus uploaded this side-by-side comparison of some common phone activities at speeds throttled to either 256 or 512 kilobites per second. This was presumably to demonstrate how much faster photos and other rich media assets load at the faster throughput.

    Me? I think that in 2019 both are equally unusable. And that's why I chose to upgrade my Big Three data plan to a "limited" monthly bucket of 15GB.

    Don't get me wrong, I am as appalled as any other Canadian by the egregious fees that Bell, Rogers and Telus (plus the rest) charge for exceeding your monthly data allotment. It's just that, for my habits, 5 extra gigabytes per billing cycle is a lot more useful than unlimited throttled data. Depending on the month it works out to about half a gigabyte per day, a decent amount of headroom which also makes me less reliant on sketchy WiFi networks and even allows me to tether from a computer in case of a short outage from my ISP.

    Again, I'm not telling anyone what to do here, only asking that you give some extra thought to your own needs before committing to either 10GB plus throttling or 15GB without. The 15GB option is no longer being advertised but still available from both Bell and Telus, as of last Friday anyway.

    And if you wanted some additional perspective on this, here's some wisdom from Red Flag Deals:

    The best deal wildly available in the past year was the $60/10GB deal. Now you can pay $15 more to get dial up speeds beyond that. You're effectively prepaying your overage charges at a user experience comparable to the mid 2000s.
    Sources: RFD, r/Telus

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    This article was originally published in forum thread: So many promo plans...help!! started by savbers View original post
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    1. @Class's Avatar
      @Class -
      Quote Originally Posted by savbers View Post
      So I'm currently on Bell's $54 (BYOD) thunder bay promo plan (black market plan),

      it includes 6GB share data per month (I share another one of these with my mom for a total of 12gb) and everything else (international text though).

      But I've been going over on the share data so I have a $25 unlimited data plan with Freedom mobile. I don't want to continue this dual SIM situation though.

      Sooo I'm sure you all know about the new promo plans:

      $75 for 10GB (no overages)
      $75 for 15GB ($100/GB)

      Both are non-share data and I consistently use about 12GB of data per month.

      So you see the dilemma I'm stuck with? Which should I choose? Should I just stay with my current plan? Help please!

      https://www.reddit.com/r/bell/commen...omo_planshelp/
      I would wait it out... 5G is going to come and all the data buckets are going to look pathetically small in Canada. They're already bad, but at 2,000 Mbps it's going to be a complete wtf moment.
    1. savbers's Avatar
      savbers -
      Quote Originally Posted by @Class View Post
      I would wait it out... 5G is going to come and all the data buckets are going to look pathetically small in Canada. They're already bad, but at 2,000 Mbps it's going to be a complete wtf moment.
      Wouldn't having more data/unlimited data now be a good idea now then?
    1. toolcube's Avatar
      toolcube -
      Bell (and Rogers) will throttle your speed after 10GB on their new $75 unlimited plans. Check what Bellís throttled speed is. Rogers is 256kbps and Bellís is probably the same. If you consistently use more than 10GB, then the new unlimited plan is not going to work for you unless your data usage is confined to email/text (any other type of data at an abysmally slow speed of 256k isnít going to work very well/at all). The $75/15GB plan is probably better for you but check with Bell if that rate is only good for 2 years or if it continues for as long as you keep the plan.


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    1. savbers's Avatar
      savbers -
      Quote Originally Posted by toolcube View Post
      Bell (and Rogers) will throttle your speed after 10GB on their new $75 unlimited plans. Check what Bellís throttled speed is. Rogers is 256kbps and Bellís is probably the same. If you consistently use more than 10GB, then the new unlimited plan is not going to work for you unless your data usage is confined to email/text (any other type of data at an abysmally slow speed of 256k isnít going to work very well/at all). The $75/15GB plan is probably better for you but check with Bell if that rate is only good for 2 years or if it continues for as long as you keep the plan.


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      I have a second SIM with Freedom right now and 256kbps is better than $100/GB overages.
    1. turbogeek's Avatar
      turbogeek -
      If their network is up to par for your needs, Rogers' unlimited plan IS shareable (or at least according to the plan details on their website for my region).
    1. @Class's Avatar
      @Class -
      Quote Originally Posted by savbers View Post
      I have a second SIM with Freedom right now and 256kbps is better than $100/GB overages.
      Canada's solution to data demand ... Dialup speeds

      From the Dialup Wikipedia page: For instance, a 53.3 kbit/s connection with V.44 can transmit up to 53.3 ◊ 6 = 320 kbit/s if the offered data stream can be compressed that much.

      Oh wait Canadian plans ARE SLOWER THAN DIALUP
    1. turbogeek's Avatar
      turbogeek -
      As of today, Telus has launched their counter-offer. Not shareable, 512Kbps throttled for 'overage', includes tethering up to the 'high speed' limit. https://www.telus.com/en/deals-and-b...pe=hero_banner

      Guess the government's harder look at the sector has got the Bigs spooked - giving in a bit so they aren't forced to give in a LOT.
    1. @Class's Avatar
      @Class -
      Quote Originally Posted by turbogeek View Post
      As of today, Telus has launched their counter-offer. Not shareable, 512Kbps throttled for 'overage', includes tethering up to the 'high speed' limit. https://www.telus.com/en/deals-and-b...pe=hero_banner

      Guess the government's harder look at the sector has got the Bigs spooked - giving in a bit so they aren't forced to give in a LOT.
      I'll most likely switch from Virgin then, no unlimited to speak of.

      Same network, better deal.
    1. @Class's Avatar
      @Class -
      Quote Originally Posted by @Class View Post
      I'll most likely switch from Virgin then, no unlimited to speak of.
      Same network, better deal.
      Called into Virgin, no plans to speak of... So will switch to Telus soon. Same network, better deal.
    1. toolcube's Avatar
      toolcube -
      Iíll bet itís only a matter of time before the flanker brands offer unlimited, and theyíll probably be cheaper. Also, look for non-share unlimited plans to come out soon, which should be cheaper too. Rogersí current plans are shared...not sure if Bell/Telusí are??


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    1. @Class's Avatar
      @Class -
      Quote Originally Posted by toolcube View Post
      Iíll bet itís only a matter of time before the flanker brands offer unlimited, and theyíll probably be cheaper. Also, look for non-share unlimited plans to come out soon, which should be cheaper too. Rogersí current plans are shared...not sure if Bell/Telusí are??


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      Bell & Telus = NOT SHARABLE

      Rogers = SHAREABLE with Apple Watch, Tablets, IoT etc.
    1. acurrie's Avatar
      acurrie -
      [Putting this thread on the front page...]



      A helpful redditor over on r/Telus uploaded this side-by-side comparison of some common phone activities at speeds throttled to either 256 or 512 kilobites per second. This was presumably to demonstrate how much faster photos and other rich media assets load at the faster throughput.

      Me? I think that in 2019 both are equally unusable. And that's why I chose to upgrade my Big Three data plan to a "limited" monthly bucket of 15GB.

      Don't get me wrong, I am as appalled as any other Canadian by the egregious fees that Bell, Rogers and Telus (plus the rest) charge for exceeding your monthly data allotment. It's just that, for my habits, 5 extra gigabytes per billing cycle is a lot more useful than unlimited throttled data. Depending on the month it works out to about half a gigabyte per day, a decent amount of headroom which also makes me less reliant on sketchy WiFi networks and even allows me to tether from a computer in case of a short outage from my ISP.

      Again, I'm not telling anyone what to do here, only asking that you give some extra thought to your own needs before committing to either 10GB plus throttling or 15GB without. The 15GB option is no longer being advertised but still available from both Bell and Telus, as of last Friday anyway.

      And if you wanted some additional perspective on this, here's some wisdom from Red Flag Deals:

      The best deal wildly available in the past year was the $60/10GB deal. Now you can pay $15 more to get dial up speeds beyond that. You're effectively prepaying your overage charges at a user experience comparable to the mid 2000s.
      Sources: RFD, r/Telus
    1. can3gxw's Avatar
      can3gxw -
      The VERY first thing that I noticed about the "equal, side by side comparison" is that they went through all the trouble of clearing several caches, but Chrome clearly shows 29 browser tabs open. God only knows what those other tabs are running. I'm not saying that 256 or 512 kbps are fast, but come on - I immediately discounted everything else in that video once I saw that.

      For the record - I am on my company cell phone plan, my wife is paying $40/4GB with Virgin. That's plenty for us. I wish everyone else luck getting a deal that's good for them. I've got several friends that have made the switch and gotten a LOT more data for a LOT LESS money.
    1. savbers's Avatar
      savbers -
      Just wanted to update and say I'm on my first month of the Telus plan.

      Well over my 10gb unlimited and I'm still waiting to be throttled.Attachment 163339

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