• Big Three Data Deals - The Fine Print



    Quote Originally Posted by ddsdude View Post
    Strangely enough, all these unlimited plans feature Canada texting only; no international texting. All my plans for the past 9 years have had international texting.
    Kudos to eagle-eyed HoFoer ddsdude for spotting an important detail in the fine print of Canada's new "unlimited" data plans. While the sending of SMS from Canada to international destinations has (I think) been only a recent perk, one the main tenets of texting has always been that incoming messages are free, no matter where you are.

    With these new plans, however, that's not necessarily the case. Here's the fine print from each of the Big Three...

    From Bell:
    Received messages include text messages received while in Canada and excludes roaming, premium messages, alerts or dial-up messages received from a messaging application.
    From Rogers:
    Includes texts sent to local wireless number while in eligible destination or to Canadian wireless number. Sent/received premium texts and sent international texts to destinations other than eligible destinations charged at applicable rates.
    And from Telus, with no specific fine print about SMS:
    Plus, enjoy unlimited Canada-wide calls and texts.
    So it seems that of Canada's Big Three, only Rogers will continue to provide free incoming texts while roaming. It's not the end of the world, as I suspect the majority of users who take their phones abroad will do so with a roaming add-on—which, if you didn't know, lets you send and receive SMS for free. But if there's a local data SIM cheaper than the $12/day "roam like home" going rate (like in Hong Kong or Taiwan, for example) then you might want to pull your Big Three SIM from your unlocked phone altogether, so you don't get dinged for any incoming texts while away.

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    Andrew Currie has been blogging about mobile phones since 2001, smartphones (depending on how you define them) since 2002 and smartwatches since 2014.
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    This article was originally published in forum thread: The Future Is Friendly™ - Telus Gives In, Unlimited plans with 512Kbps throttling started by turbogeek View original post
    Comments 26 Comments
    1. crab9000's Avatar
      crab9000 -
      "No Overage plans allow you to use as much data as you like while in Canada and never be charged data overages" curious if that means this plan still incurs overages when roaming, and also if it's eligible for roam better. From what I can tell of Rogers and Bell's no overage plans, if you went over while roaming, you would be throttled but not incur overages. I like the 512/kbps throttle better than Rogers and Bell's 256.

      edit: Telus chat says the plan is eligible for easy roam, so I'm assuming you wouldn't incur data overages when roaming
    1. ddsdude's Avatar
      ddsdude -
      Where are the details? Minutes, voicemail, etc, etc? The telus site says nothing aside from the data.
    1. turbogeek's Avatar
      turbogeek -
      I believe these are unlimited nationwide calling, unlimited sms/mms, VM25
    1. ddsdude's Avatar
      ddsdude -
      Quote Originally Posted by turbogeek View Post
      I believe these are unlimited nationwide calling, unlimited sms/mms, VM25
      They are indeed. I verified with Telus chat. Strangely enough, all these unlimited plans feature Canada texting only; no international texting. All my plans for the past 9 years have had international texting. Not a big deal but odd nonetheless.
    1. acurrie's Avatar
      acurrie -
      [Apologies for the excessively formal and long-winded reply; only doing so to post this thread to the front page...]

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      Quote Originally Posted by ddsdude View Post
      Strangely enough, all these unlimited plans feature Canada texting only; no international texting. All my plans for the past 9 years have had international texting.
      Kudos to eagle-eyed HoFoer ddsdude for spotting an important detail in the fine print of Canada's new "unlimited" data plans. While the sending of SMS from Canada to international destinations has (I think) been only a recent perk, one the main tenets of texting has always been that incoming messages are free, no matter where you are.

      With these new plans, however, that's not necessarily the case. Here's the fine print from each of the Big Three...

      From Bell:
      Received messages include text messages received while in Canada and excludes roaming, premium messages, alerts or dial-up messages received from a messaging application.
      From Rogers:
      Includes texts sent to local wireless number while in eligible destination or to Canadian wireless number. Sent/received premium texts and sent international texts to destinations other than eligible destinations charged at applicable rates.
      And from Telus, with no specific fine print about SMS:
      Plus, enjoy unlimited Canada-wide calls and texts.
      So it seems that of Canada's Big Three, only Rogers will continue to provide free incoming texts while roaming. It's not the end of the world, as I suspect the majority of users who take their phones abroad will do so with a roaming add-on—which, if you didn't know, lets you send and receive SMS for free. But if there's a local data SIM cheaper than the $12/day "roam like home" going rate (like in Hong Kong or Taiwan, for example) then you might want to pull your Big Three SIM from your unlocked phone altogether, so you don't get dinged for any incoming texts while away.
    1. TwitchyPuppy's Avatar
      TwitchyPuppy -
      Quote Originally Posted by crab9000 View Post
      "No Overage plans allow you to use as much data as you like while in Canada and never be charged data overages" curious if that means this plan still incurs overages when roaming, and also if it's eligible for roam better. From what I can tell of Rogers and Bell's no overage plans, if you went over while roaming, you would be throttled but not incur overages. I like the 512/kbps throttle better than Rogers and Bell's 256.

      edit: Telus chat says the plan is eligible for easy roam, so I'm assuming you wouldn't incur data overages when roaming
      I like Rogers’s shared Infinity plans better than Bell and Telus’s non-shared unlimited plans.


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    1. @Class's Avatar
      @Class -
      I just left Virgin to come onto Telus.
    1. howard's Avatar
      howard -
      Since July 2nd has come and pass the new "unlimited" data plans are now known as Peace of Mind rate plans.

      They include $75/10GB, $95/20GB or $125/50GB of data at full speed after which it is throttled to 512kbps.

      There are also shareable plans with the same data buckets but with no throttling.

      Next up are their Family discounts; add a second family member and everyone get $5 off. A third and it goes up to $10. 4 or more means everyone gets $15 off.

      Finally TELUS is now decoupling the device subsidy from the plan by offering device financing (Easy Payment). It starts at 0 down with device trade-in with options to finance for up to 24 months.

      More details here.
    1. acurrie's Avatar
      acurrie -
      Back to the front page we go...!

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      A few weeks ago when Canada's Big Three suddenly started offering 10GB "unlimited" BYOD plans, Telus set itself apart by throttling additional data at a higher bit-rate than Bell and Rogers—512kbps versus 256. While I personally am of the opinion that EDGE data speeds are flat-out unacceptable in 2019, it seems to have been enough of a differentiator for many to go with Telus.

      Good news for those people: as of today, Telus is making improvements to all of their BYOD plans.

      First leaked to Mobile Syrup this morning, the rates are now live, and are branded Peace of Mind Plans. Rates are as they were before:

      Peace of Mind: $75/month for 10GB
      Peace of Mind Plus: $95/month for 20GB
      Peace of Mind Ultra: $125/month for 50GB

      The new perk is a family discount, offering per-user savings as follows:

      $5 per line per month for 2 lines
      $10 per line per month for 3 lines
      $15 per line per month for 4 to 9 lines

      And this family discount also applies to three new Simple Share Plans with (you guessed it) shareable data:

      Simple Share 10: $75/month for 10GB
      Simple Share 20: $95/month for 20GB
      Simple Share 50: $125/month for 50GB

      The data isn't capped, and overages will cost the usual (and egregious) $100/GB, but you can at least pool your household data into a bigger monthly bucket and redistribute it however you see fit.

      More on these new plans at the links immediately below.

      Source: Telus via Mobile Syrup
    1. harry1960's Avatar
      harry1960 -
      Not having International text messaging is huge for me. I have had a number of occasions in the last few months that I used International texting extensively....I will keep my plan that has them....
    1. The_Maestro's Avatar
      The_Maestro -
      Called customer support. They said plans are to new and to call in a few days. I need 3 unlimited local lines with about 50 Gb of data to share between them and 4 tablet plans. What will I expect to pay? Right now tablet lines are 5 dollars each and share data on our account. Rep couldn’t tell me if I could keep those as is. What can I expect to pay with the new plans?


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    1. emann56's Avatar
      emann56 -
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Maestro View Post
      Called customer support. They said plans are to new and to call in a few days. I need 3 unlimited local lines with about 50 Gb of data to share between them and 4 tablet plans. What will I expect to pay? Right now tablet lines are 5 dollars each and share data on our account. Rep couldn’t tell me if I could keep those as is. What can I expect to pay with the new plans?


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      I've been told they have new tablet and smartwatch plans that are compatible with the unlimited plans.

      Live Chat: For Peace of Mind customers, the current plan that we can offer for the smartwatch includes 5Gb of high-speed internet, once the 5GB has been reached the speed will be reduced to 512Kbps, the price of the plan is $10/month. For tablets it would be the same but for $30.

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    1. The_Maestro's Avatar
      The_Maestro -
      So I would pay $30 per tablet line to share the data on my primary line? So from $5 to $30? And what about the other 2 local unlimited plans?


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    1. emann56's Avatar
      emann56 -
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Maestro View Post
      So I would pay $30 per tablet line to share the data on my primary line? So from $5 to $30? And what about the other 2 local unlimited plans?


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      Oh sorry I meant these were only for the unlimited data plans.

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    1. @Class's Avatar
      @Class -
      I'm on the 10GB plan for some reason (probably as a money grab) Telus pro-rates the first 5 days then the billing cycle starts afterwards, so for me on the 10th.

      The weird thing is I didn't get throttled at all. The CS as the store was nice and showed I should be throttled at 1.66 GB but I just used 2 GB running speed tests here on the 401 Highway and nothing... I decided to stop if this is eating into the rest of my bucket.
    1. emann56's Avatar
      emann56 -
      Quote Originally Posted by @Class View Post
      I'm on the 10GB plan for some reason (probably as a money grab) Telus pro-rates the first 5 days then the billing cycle starts afterwards, so for me on the 10th.

      The weird thing is I didn't get throttled at all. The CS as the store was nice and showed I should be throttled at 1.66 GB but I just used 2 GB running speed tests here on the 401 Highway and nothing... I decided to stop if this is eating into the rest of my bucket.
      I used over 30gb extra on Telus and still no throttle.

      Sent from my GM1917 using HoFo mobile app
    1. @Class's Avatar
      @Class -
      Quote Originally Posted by emann56 View Post
      I used over 30gb extra on Telus and still no throttle.

      Sent from my GM1917 using HoFo mobile app
      I was hoping to test this out before I ported from Virgin...
    1. SmokeJV's Avatar
      SmokeJV -
      Same here, I am on the 10GB No Overages plan, and I'm at 11.5GB and I'm not being throddled at all.
    1. turbogeek's Avatar
      turbogeek -
      Enjoy the party for now, I'm sure Telus will bust it up at some point.
    1. ddsdude's Avatar
      ddsdude -
      Telus is new to the throttling game and likely has not implemented the systems for it. Enjoy the party indeed. You can bet those paying for the 50gb plan aren’t too happy about it.
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