• Huawei Blocked from Google Services



    After the company was put on a U.S. government trade blacklist last Thursday, it seems today that forthcoming smartphones from Huawei will not have access to Google services like Gmail and the Play Store—at least not until this mess gets sorted out.

    For the moment, Huawei devices already in use will continue to function normally, as per this statement from the official Android account on Twitter:

    For Huawei users' questions regarding our steps to comply w/ the recent US government actions: We assure you while we are complying with all US gov't requirements, services like Google Play & security from Google Play Protect will keep functioning on your existing Huawei device.
    For future Huawei releases, however, the forecast looks decidedly grim. To comply with government orders it's not just Google denying access to their products but Broadcom, Intel and Qualcomm as well. How much all of this will actually hurt the world's number two OEM is debatable; the company already makes their own smartphone chips and apparently has an in-house backup smartphone OS ready for deployment at any time.

    Could other Chinese smartphone makers like OnePlus be added to the U.S. blacklist? Could China counter by banning all Apple products? Given the current state of affairs anything seems possible.

    Sources: Android Police, Bloomberg, South China Morning Post

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    This article was originally published in forum thread: Huawei - Android ban started by SoNic67 View original post
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    1. acurrie's Avatar
      acurrie -


      After the company was put on a U.S. government trade blacklist last Thursday, it seems today that forthcoming smartphones from Huawei will not have access to Google services like Gmail and the Play Store—at least not until this mess gets sorted out.

      For the moment, Huawei devices already in use will continue to function normally, as per this statement from the official Android account on Twitter:

      For Huawei users' questions regarding our steps to comply w/ the recent US government actions: We assure you while we are complying with all US gov't requirements, services like Google Play & security from Google Play Protect will keep functioning on your existing Huawei device.
      For future Huawei releases, however, the forecast looks decidedly grim. To comply with government orders it's not just Google denying access to their products but Broadcom, Intel and Qualcomm as well. How much all of this will actually hurt the world's number two OEM is debatable; the company already makes their own smartphone chips and apparently has an in-house backup smartphone OS ready for deployment at any time.

      Could other Chinese smartphone makers like OnePlus be added to the U.S. blacklist? Could China counter by banning all Apple products? Given the current state of affairs anything seems possible.

      Sources: Android Police, Bloomberg, South China Morning Post
    1. SoNic67's Avatar
      SoNic67 -
      I think that China has more to lose here.
    1. turbogeek's Avatar
      turbogeek -
      I don't quite understand how the Android ban is supposed to work - commits to AOSP will still be available, will they not? Isn't this just eliminating Huawei's ability to use gApps and access the new code early?
    1. acurrie's Avatar
      acurrie -
      Looks like the ban has been reversed, at least for the time being:

      Android Authority: US lifts Huawei ban, but only temporarily and in a limited scope
    1. SoNic67's Avatar
      SoNic67 -
      That's not "reversed", it's just delayed to allow for normal business closing.
    1. SoNic67's Avatar
      SoNic67 -
      It is blocked from ARM too now.
      https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/22/1...ess-suspension
    1. jerjonesjr's Avatar
      jerjonesjr -
      When I read this, I have only one question "What will be with already bought Huawei phones and their users?" Then, I found this Google's statement: “We are complying with the order and reviewing the implications. For users of our services, Google Play and the security protections from Google Play Protect will continue to function on existing Huawei devices". Huawei has also said to TechRadar that it will continue to do all it can to support all its phones currently out in the wild, and is looking at other implications of Google's decision.
    1. Tollerphoner's Avatar
      Tollerphoner -
      It will force China to develop alternatives and ultimately damage sales of US companies. The way we are throwing sanctions and tariffs around, all countries and companies will do whatever they can to cut the US out of their supply chain.
    1. SoNic67's Avatar
      SoNic67 -
      US doesn't sell anything valuable in China. So has nothing to lose.
    1. AlexKidd1977's Avatar
      AlexKidd1977 -
      Quote Originally Posted by SoNic67 View Post
      US doesn't sell anything valuable in China. So has nothing to lose.
      China is such an unfair market. Did you realize that if a Chinese person wanted to buy an Apple iPhone for example - a product originally assembled in China, the item is considered imported and government charges tariffs on it even if it never left their soil? Top that off with government subsidies given to favorable local companies like Huawei so the cost difference becomes so high that Apple is literally a luxury over there.

      —Kidd
    1. munkala's Avatar
      munkala -
      These sanctions on Huawei just might stimulate the smartphone market once again. I have no intentions of upgrading to a new smartphone anytime soon. Why? It's not broken and all my apps are running fine with no slowdown.

      With a new HongMeng/Ark OS on the horizon, I will be tempted to buy a new handset just because I'm bored of my Android handset.

      I think Ark OS has the capability to do well in all of Asia except Korea/Japan as those are basically USA ruled provinces.

      Sent from my LM-X410.FGN using HoFo mobile app
    1. AlexKidd1977's Avatar
      AlexKidd1977 -
      Quote Originally Posted by munkala View Post
      ... all of Asia except Korea/Japan as those are basically USA ruled provinces.
      What a controversial assessment - I hope that you really meant that Korea and Japan are friendly and respectful of our intellectual property laws and foreign policies? Not that we rule them?

      —Kidd
    1. munkala's Avatar
      munkala -
      Quote Originally Posted by AlexKidd1977 View Post
      What a controversial assessment - I hope that you really meant that Korea and Japan are friendly and respectful of our intellectual property laws and foreign policies? Not that we rule them?

      —Kidd
      America is a huge empire. That's why there are 700+ American military bases all around the world. It rules using puppet politicians.

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    1. SoNic67's Avatar
      SoNic67 -
      The bases are how US helps their friends to protect from Invaders like China. The US military are guests in most of the countries, employing local nationals. The only countries that are less than that might be Germany and Japan, they lost a war.
    1. cellphone-guy's Avatar
      cellphone-guy -
      Huawei makes great phones. Perhaps the BEST. That combined with the fact that sales of their product help to fuel a semi communist society caused the alarm bells to ring in capitalist America.

      It's all about money and politics, not the best product. It's not really about government spying, after all America and our hidden NSA was uncovered as perhaps the largest spy network by a government on its own people. All governments spy on their people. In the case with Huawei, the capitalist countries just don't want communist countries doing the spying.... while also making the most money.

      I disagree about the potential for a new OS from Huawei. All it's going to do is fracture the world's Android user base and in the end that hurts app development and adoption of technologies. Not only that, you'll probably see integrated censorship at the OS level.

      I love Huawei. I think the Chinese make some amazing products. It's just unfortunate that theft of technology and R&D seems to be inherent to the Chinese business model. Look at eBay, at all the black market copies, not to mention total SCAMS out of China. That's partially why we're having a trade war.

      Huawei is an unfortunate victim.

      Sent from my F1 using HoFo mobile app
    1. AlexKidd1977's Avatar
      AlexKidd1977 -
      Quote Originally Posted by cellphone-guy View Post
      Huawei makes great phones. Perhaps the BEST. That combined with the fact that sales of their product help to fuel a semi communist society caused the alarm bells to ring in capitalist America.
      It sounds like you’ve have experience with and even potentially charmed by some Huawei handsets, would you be so kind as to share with us your favorite models? I’ve honestly heard very little rumblings about their products other than the low end models here in the states. That definitely doesn’t mean they don’t exist - our markets just may not be attracted because of less brand appeal. I’m interested to hear what gems they have?

      I will admit I was at one point interested in their laptop series the Matebook, so again my interest is genuine.

      —Kidd
    1. cellphone-guy's Avatar
      cellphone-guy -
      Quote Originally Posted by AlexKidd1977 View Post
      It sounds like you’ve have experience with and even potentially charmed by some Huawei handsets, would you be so kind as to share with us your favorite models? I’ve honestly heard very little rumblings about their products other than the low end models here in the states. That definitely doesn’t mean they don’t exist - our markets just may not be attracted because of less brand appeal. I’m interested to hear what gems they have?

      I will admit I was at one point interested in their laptop series the Matebook, so again my interest is genuine.

      —Kidd
      I wouldn't recommend buying a Huawei at this time because of the ban. But they made incredible advances, especially in cell phone photography. Teaming with Leica, a world renowned camera/lense maker helped them to push into high-end territory. The P30 was an example ..

      Check out all of the amazing features...

      https://consumer.huawei.com/en/phones/p30-pro/

      Also, their dual screen foldable was BETTER than the one from Samsung.

      https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/24/1...specs-mwc-2019

      Sent from my F1 using HoFo mobile app
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