• Even with Price-Fixing, Not All Canadian Carrier Plans are Equal



    ... Either that, or the Koodo rep I spoke to made a big mistake.

    I guess everyone reading this is sitting pretty on their 10GBs from last December's holiday miracle; nobody on Howard Forums seems to be talking about a spring promotion being offered by Canada's Big Three flanker brands. I first heard about it at my local Best Buy, and confirmed it with a visit to both Koodo and Virgin Mobile kiosks yesterday. It might only apply to Ontario.

    The current rate cards for BYOD plans are still identical for Fido, Koodo and Virgin Mobile, but... if you take a plan with 1GB or more of data they will add an additional 3GB to your plan. In other words:

    1GB becomes 4GB for $50/month
    3GB becomes 6GB for $60/month
    5GB becomes 8GB for $70/month
    8GB becomes 11GB for $85/month

    The 10GB plans probably get an extra 3GB as well, but nobody should have to pay over a hundred bucks for their cell phone plan. Come on...

    For me Fido wasn't really in the running, only because the Bell/Telus network has proven to be significantly faster in downtown Toronto. So my first stop at the mall was at a Virgin Mobile kiosk. Everything was as expected, including the egregious data overage rate of $7 per 100MB that has apparently become the new standard. But there's one peculiar aspect to Virgin's Roam Sweet Roam serviceófor the daily roaming fee you don't actually get access to your data bucket, but instead an allowance of a mere 100MB. Despite being a big fan of local SIM cards while travelling this didn't sit well with me, so on I went to Koodo.

    I'll cut to the chase: the big difference with Koodo's promotion is that the 3GB data bonus is only good for 24 months, whereas with Virgin it will remain on your account until you change your plan. So even with the meager data bucket while roaming, Virgin Mobile is definitely the better choice. I hope this helps anyone in the market for a new plan. I haven't seen these bonus data promos advertised anywhere, even on the carriers' websites, but for Ontarians they are definitely available, so grab one while you can.

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    This article was originally published in forum thread: Koodo's new rate card - Less for More [March 2018] started by pjw918 View original post
    Comments 29 Comments
    1. pjw918's Avatar
      pjw918 -
      The previous plan roster, for reference.
      (BYOD)


      https://i.imgur.com/Nng4q10.png
    1. CGY Guy's Avatar
      CGY Guy -
      Jeezus H... What the hell are they thinking?
    1. TwitchyPuppy's Avatar
      TwitchyPuppy -
      This is clearly market specific as prices havenít budged for QC.


      Sent from my iPhone X on Fidoís network using Tapatalk Beta.
    1. Eluder's Avatar
      Eluder -
      Man, the telecom market here in Canada is horrendous. Prices keep going up, where in the US there is constant competition driving prices down. Youíll now see Bell and Rogers follow suit since the big 3 always ride each otherís coattails when it comes to pricing.
    1. pjw918's Avatar
      pjw918 -
      Update: there's a $5 add-on now for unlimited anytime minutes.

      So 1GB with unlimited Canada-wide talk, $55.
      .
    1. phoneseeker101's Avatar
      phoneseeker101 -
      Ouch.......so when are Fido and Virign following up with increases of their own? The 3 amigos . I would never pay those prices....I'll stick to my $40/6GB plan for as long as I can. If this keeps up, I'll probably have to switch to one of those pre-paid pay-as-you go sim cards from 7/11 .
    1. CGY Guy's Avatar
      CGY Guy -
      I think this is the retribution for all those $60 / 10 gig plans that went out the door in December. Gotta maintain that shareholder value...
    1. wes786's Avatar
      wes786 -
      Ouch! Thats bad news
    1. DevinRabey's Avatar
      DevinRabey -
      Quote Originally Posted by pjw918 View Post
      Koodo's new plan roster, effective March 5 2018.
      https://www.koodomobile.com/rate-plans

      Higher prices.

      No more unlimited talk.
      (except for a PPU data plan, and Tab Large)
      Voice overage 0.60/min *
      Data overage remains $7/100MB

      Plans with limited minutes have unltd E&W.
      Unlimited anytime available as a $5 addon.
      CF is extra cost, $3/mo (.60/min PPU), as usual with Telus.

      Want a plan with unlimited talk and included data?
      Tab Large, starting @ $79 for 1GB.


      https://i.imgur.com/M9tpTEi.png

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      * 500 minutes averages out to 23 min per weekday.
      Go over quota and you're paying $18 for a 30 min local call.
      Won't that be a surprise!

      There's no overage cap mandated for voice.
      And no quota alerts sent out.
      Were going backwards here in Canada. Prices should be going down. Not up.


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    1. CGY Guy's Avatar
      CGY Guy -
      Quote Originally Posted by DevinRabey View Post
      Were going backwards here in Canada. Prices should be going down. Not up.
      No kidding. 2005 called, they want their rate plans back.
    1. jattdesi's Avatar
      jattdesi -
      Price Fixing at it's Finest. Virgin Mobile Just jacked up there rate plans as well.
    1. xtachx's Avatar
      xtachx -
      Quote Originally Posted by Eluder View Post
      Man, the telecom market here in Canada is horrendous. Prices keep going up, where in the US there is constant competition driving prices down. Youíll now see Bell and Rogers follow suit since the big 3 always ride each otherís coattails when it comes to pricing.
      Just NO. A single line in the US cost $70 USD/month give or take (and some dont include Canadian roaming or cheap international calling). That is ~95 CAD. Look, I moved to the US and the cell phone prices are horrendous here. No company here beats my Fido plan. I will pay 2X to get the same ****. Not cool. For what Fido gives me for $65/month in Canada, I will pay ~$95 US. Keeping Fido+Roaming used to be cheaper (USD 90!) but now after they jacked it up its USD 120.
    1. qag01's Avatar
      qag01 -
      Quote Originally Posted by xtachx View Post
      Just NO. A single line in the US cost $70 USD/month give or take (and some dont include Canadian roaming or cheap international calling). That is ~95 CAD. Look, I moved to the US and the cell phone prices are horrendous here. No company here beats my Fido plan. I will pay 2X to get the same ****. Not cool. For what Fido gives me for $65/month in Canada, I will pay ~$95 US. Keeping Fido+Roaming used to be cheaper (USD 90!) but now after they jacked it up its USD 120.
      Take a look at some of the MVNO's. Their prices should be much lower

      Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using HoFo mobile app
    1. weskeene's Avatar
      weskeene -
      Don't get too excited about US pricing. It's not all wonderful here, either. Granted, prices were coming down the last couple years, but that's stabilized now. The main benefit I see with US pricing over these plans is that anything in the US these days pretty much comes with unlimited talk and text...at least until you start to get into the ultra cheap MVNO offerings.

      I do feel for Canadians, though. Some of those prices (particularly the prices the good network(s) charge) are insane.
    1. Samshares's Avatar
      Samshares -
      Quote Originally Posted by xtachx View Post
      Just NO. A single line in the US cost $70 USD/month give or take (and some dont include Canadian roaming or cheap international calling). That is ~95 CAD. Look, I moved to the US and the cell phone prices are horrendous here. No company here beats my Fido plan. I will pay 2X to get the same ****. Not cool. For what Fido gives me for $65/month in Canada, I will pay ~$95 US. Keeping Fido+Roaming used to be cheaper (USD 90!) but now after they jacked it up its USD 120.
      If you think paying $65+Fido Roam every month is cheaper and gives you more bang for your buck....no idea how you do math

      $80+Tax AT&T Enahanced 4G LTE Unlimited Data plan includes Canada-Mexico Roaming as well. 15GB Hotspot and more! not to mention free HBO.....


      Yes I know AT&T says after 22GB your data may be throttled, but thats IF your in a congested area.

      Verizon is $85 for the same plan.
    1. pjw918's Avatar
      pjw918 -
      Quote Originally Posted by jattdesi View Post
      Price Fixing at it's Finest. Virgin Mobile Just jacked up there rate plans as well.
      Virgin BYOD Plans
      March 7 2018

      Look familiar?


      https://i.imgur.com/GSa5WK6.png


      Identical plans & pricing.

      Imagine that.
    1. agent.86's Avatar
      agent.86 -
      Quote Originally Posted by pjw918 View Post
      Virgin BYOD Plans
      March 7 2018

      Look familiar?


      https://i.imgur.com/V1VrQFJ.png


      Identical plans & pricing.

      Imagine that.
      How's that for fair competition in the marketplace?
    1. CGY Guy's Avatar
      CGY Guy -
      You're all paranoid, there is no collusion.
    1. pjw918's Avatar
      pjw918 -
      Fido's synched up.
      Want unlimited? that's added value!
      All together now, one big step.. backwards.

      Fido Revamps Pulse Plans with 500 Minutes Option, Matching Virgin and Koodo
      iPhone in Canada, Mar 14

      $50/1GB + 500 minutes
      $55/1GB + unlimited minutes
      $60/3GB + 500 minutes
      $65/3GB + unlimited minutes
      $70/5GB + 500 minutes
      $75/5GB + unlimited minutes
      $85/8GB + 500 minutes
      $90/8GB + unlimited minutes

    1. CGY Guy's Avatar
      CGY Guy -
      It was only a matter of time. They stagger increases to make it look like it's not an across the board increase. Monkey see, monkey do.