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i'm also in phx and get 600kbs on average i have never seen over 800. i will talk to the lucent tech's tomorrow and find out what the deal is.
I've so far found the HSDPA network in Dallas to be almost twice as fast on the downlink as the network in Phoenix. However 700kbps download at 120 ms of latency is still quite impressive!!!
Come on, Cingular! South Florida and Miami in particular are very metropolitan areas with a lot of customers waiting for your response to EVDO... or switching! I wonder what the criteria when choosing those 16 markets was.
I've so far found the HSDPA network in Dallas to be almost twice as fast on the downlink as the network in Phoenix. However 700kbps download at 120 ms of latency is still quite impressive!!!
I wonder if Cingular is using different links to the Internet from within, or have them set as regional. Only a traceroute from within to a site will tell you.
after doing some research, california and SF are not on lucent UMTS. lucent has portland, seattle, salt lake, phoenix. ericsson i believe is cali market.
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I just did the top three on that page and got within +/- 10%. I'm sure that is worth nothing.
But it is worth something. That's another story. When things correlate like that, it invalidates to some degree the "test is no good for hops outside Cingular's network" claim.
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I ave been getting consistent results right under a UMTS site of about 120Kb/s upload and 900Kb/sec download. Download speeds have ranged from 600Kb/sec - over 1Mb/sec.
I have two different HSDPA cards currently.
Will try to report back on results using the requested tests when I get a chance.
Come on, Cingular! South Florida and Miami in particular are very metropolitan areas with a lot of customers waiting for your response to EVDO... or switching! I wonder what the criteria when choosing those 16 markets was.
FLA was one of the first States with GSM. cingy did not have much GSM until 2004. Looks like we will be one of the last States to get WCDMA. When Verizon launched EVDO in the Tampa area. They did a lot of advertising. cingy has lost a lot of business people to them and Sprint. Since we have 0 3G down here.
Results from an FTP test tool - alternately downloading and uploading files of 1000, 2000,3000,4000 and 5000KB in size for a period of time:
Total bytes down = 277,504,000.000
Average down speed= 793.697 kbps
Total bytes up = 276,480,000.000
Average up speed = 121.027 kbps
Signal was -87dBm
Now that's a statistic worth noting!
A decent site in the west to get large FTP files with a decent pipe is from ftp://mirrors.kernel.org
I had a DS-3 pipe, and downloaded many CD-ROM ISO images of 600+ MB in 3 minutes a piece. The site is in San Jose, and I've typically recieved 25ms respsonse time on DSL from Los Angeles.
It would be interesting to see what the results of a traceroute would show (i.e. where the gateway is, how many hops, etc) for Cingular's network, and how many pop connections there are (assumed 1 per metro).
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1 11 ms 1 ms 2 ms CANADA-JG92XHNB [192.168.254.9]
2 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms 192.168.254.11
3 21 ms 12 ms 11 ms netblock-68-183-96-1.dslextreme.com [68.183.96.1]
4 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms LAX1.CR1.Gig11-0-20.dslextreme.com [66.51.203.1]
5 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms ge-5-1-115.ipcolo1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [63.209.70.133]
6 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms ae-2-56.bbr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.102.161]
7 24 ms 24 ms 26 ms ae-0-0.bbr1.SanJose1.Level3.net [64.159.1.129]
8 25 ms 24 ms 24 ms ae-11-51.car1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.123.15]
9 25 ms 24 ms 25 ms unknown.Level3.net [209.247.156.222]
10 24 ms 24 ms 25 ms dslreports-west1.speakeasy.net [64.81.79.40]
Code:
1 11 ms 1 ms 1 ms CANADA-JG92XHNB [192.168.254.9]
2 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms 192.168.254.11
3 12 ms 12 ms 11 ms netblock-68-183-96-1.dslextreme.com [68.183.96.1]
4 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms LAX1.CR1.Gig6-0-10.dslextreme.com [66.51.203.17]
5 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms netblock-66-51-206-103.dslextreme.com [66.51.206.103]
vs. an east coast server from Los Angeles - i.e. nac.net
Code:
1 11 ms 1 ms 1 ms CANADA-JG92XHNB [192.168.254.9]
2 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms 192.168.254.11
3 21 ms 11 ms 11 ms netblock-68-183-96-1.dslextreme.com [68.183.96.1]
4 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms LAX1.CR1.Gig11-0-20.dslextreme.com [66.51.203.1]
5 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms ge-5-1-115.ipcolo1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [63.209.70.133]
6 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms ae-13-51.car3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.102.14]
7 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms 4.68.111.174
8 77 ms 76 ms 76 ms dsl-bb1-pos7-0-0.telia.net [213.248.80.14]
9 86 ms 86 ms 85 ms nyk-bb2-link.telia.net [213.248.80.10]
10 84 ms 89 ms 84 ms nyk-bb1-pos0-0-0.telia.net [213.248.80.133]
11 85 ms 88 ms 85 ms nyk-b3-link.telia.net [213.248.82.10]
12 83 ms 83 ms 83 ms nac-110814-nyk-b3.c.telia.net [213.248.82.94]
13 85 ms 85 ms 84 ms 11.ge-2-3-0.gbr1.tl9.nac.net [209.123.11.98]
14 118 ms 100 ms 89 ms 0.so-5-0-0.gbr1.mmu.nac.net [209.123.11.53]
15 88 ms 87 ms 88 ms 0.so-2-0-0.gbr2.oct.nac.net [209.123.11.146]
16 87 ms 87 ms 88 ms 0.ge-0-0-0.gbr1.oct.nac.net [209.123.11.49]
17 91 ms 96 ms * www.dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]
18 111 ms * 86 ms www.dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]
Last edited by formercanuck : 02-04-2006 at 01:46.
I hope i'm not off topic here but I have a few questions about the 3G network. First off I was wondering what the difference between UMTS and HSDPA. Also, in areas where Cingular has the new network rolled out are you able to place voice calls on the new technology if you have a 3G compatible phone and SIM. And finally, I just purchased the Sierra Wireless Aircard 360 and notice that on the bottom it says "Qualcomm 3G CDMA", does this mean that Cingulars new 3G network is based on CDMA technology (as I thought that it was a 3G of GSM.) Thanks for any insight anyone might have
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Originally Posted by awagner06
I hope i'm not off topic here but I have a few questions about the 3G network. First off I was wondering what the difference between UMTS and HSDPA. Also, in areas where Cingular has the new network rolled out are you able to place voice calls on the new technology if you have a 3G compatible phone and SIM. And finally, I just purchased the Sierra Wireless Aircard 360 and notice that on the bottom it says "Qualcomm 3G CDMA", does this mean that Cingulars new 3G network is based on CDMA technology (as I thought that it was a 3G of GSM.) Thanks for any insight anyone might have
HSDPA stands for High Speed Downlink Packet Access and is a new feature of UMTS (under the R5 or release 5 UMTS standard) allowing for faster downlink data speeds. It is similar to the way EDGE was a way of speeding up GPRS data speeds.
Cingular will offer voice devices, but currently do not believe any have been approved for sale. Voice is functional on UMTS, but I am not sure that it would be fully functional on all current UMTS networks.
UMTS is a CDMA technology. It is different from the 3G version of CDMA that Verizon and Sprint are using in many ways. UMTS is backwards compatible with GSM as it was developed by the same standards group (3GPP).
From the 3GPP website:
"The original scope of 3GPP was to produce globally applicable Technical Specifications and Technical Reports for a 3rd Generation Mobile System based on evolved GSM core networks and the radio access technologies that they support (i.e., Universal Terrestrial Radio Access (UTRA) both Frequency Division Duplex (FDD) and Time Division Duplex (TDD) modes). The scope was subsequently amended to include the maintenance and development of the Global System for Mobile communication (GSM) Technical Specifications and Technical Reports including evolved radio access technologies (e.g. General Packet Radio Service (GPRS) and Enhanced Data rates for GSM Evolution (EDGE))."
I hope i'm not off topic here but I have a few questions about the 3G network. First off I was wondering what the difference between UMTS and HSDPA. Also, in areas where Cingular has the new network rolled out are you able to place voice calls on the new technology if you have a 3G compatible phone and SIM. And finally, I just purchased the Sierra Wireless Aircard 360 and notice that on the bottom it says "Qualcomm 3G CDMA", does this mean that Cingulars new 3G network is based on CDMA technology (as I thought that it was a 3G of GSM.) Thanks for any insight anyone might have
It just means that Sierra Wireless Aircard 860 uses silicon chips supplied by Qualcomm.
Reply from 68.142.226.35: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=54
Reply from 68.142.226.35: bytes=32 time=133ms TTL=54
Reply from 68.142.226.35: bytes=32 time=131ms TTL=54
Reply from 68.142.226.35: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=54
Ping statistics for 68.142.226.35:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 129ms, Maximum = 133ms, Average = 130ms
02-01-2006, 00:27
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